Apart from his size he really does look like a hobbit.

Faz captained GB to victory v Aussies playing at stand off.

Saints own coach picked Farrell at loose forward before Scully at rep level.

EVERY England / GB coach picked Farrell ahead of Scully as captain. Only deluded Saints fans believe Scully was a better player.

Think what rogues was meant to say is you talk sh#t !!

I'm far too polite, and it's still Lent.

IMO he's one of the most overrated players to ever play the game.

Im inclined to agree on the whole.

He was a great leader of Wigan and a fine player. Sadly, Sky made him out to be something he wasnt. He was a fine prop, good loose forward and decent stand off.

And the last British player to win the Golden Boot award as the Worlds best player and was the youngest player EVER to captain his country at Rugby League.

Now that was a farce.

I know both of those.

I think we all know the Golden Boot was a novelty vote for British RL, Farrell was never the best player in the world.

I'd say he deserved to captain GB when he did though early in his career. He shouldn't have captained for so long though when his performances for GB proved that he possibly didn't warrant being picked, let alone captain.

Farrell was a good player. Technically limited, but made up for it with his desire and leadership. Not in Sculthorpes class though

Abit like MOS in 2007 then?

I agree with the last bit. Scully was just in the class below Faz.

Andy Farrell was a brilliant forward.
I think the mid section of his career suffered from him slimming down, perhaps because he belived his own press and wanted to be a mercurial playmaker, but when he got back to doing his thing, he was great - Big presence and an even bigger heart.

At one point GB had a back row of Sculthorpe, Farrell and Peacock, which was something even the aussies could envy.

The word in bold covers a lot of bases.

I would say Farrell was a 'brilliant forward' for Wigan, never for GB though. He was a 'brilliant' prop forward at all levels but could anyone seriously say he was a 'brilliant' LF or SR for GB ? Not a chance.

I agree he had a big presence and even bigger heart though, exactly what Wigan have lacked since he left.

Hes right up there with Hanley and Murphy according to the wigan fans.

Still not got over that one have you?If you like, yes. But, it's much easier to make the case for Roby winning that, than it was to call Farrell the best player in the world that particular year.

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Was never as good as Sinfield

Farrell's performances for GB were not much better than Sinfield's.

The pies need a character like auld faz, they have O'Loughlin I guess though

I think Scully was a little better than Sinfield.

But the selectors chose it that way so it must be true, that is how you lot called it when Roby won it so Farrell must have been the best for his award. Typical scousers, can have it one way when a Saints player is involved but not when it's a Wigan player. Thanks for making me realise why I do still hate you lot

Farrell was excellent for GB when he played as a prop or a grafting 2nd rower. A little less successful when he had playmaking responsibilities.

It would be churlish to say that he was anything other than a great player. Wigan would have been in all sorts of trouble without him and he caused us a fair few problems over his career.

You lot are plastic scouse shysters. You still cannot admit even now Faz has gone that he was class. I have in past given your beloved Scully loads of abuse on the terraces but club loyalty aside have a deep respect for the mans ability as a player and leader of both club and country.