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Well, I'm not sure that allowing a father to do as he wants at the birth of his child is necessarily a comment upon whether an employer 'cared in the slightest'. The whole idea of a father being anywhere near his partner when she is giving birth is a very recent thing, much less an employer letting it happen. They'd probably lose in the popularity stakes if they didn't let it happen but there sure are more important times when people should be allowed to leave - like if someone has died or become sick or had an accident. To stop people from leaving at those times would indeed suggest that the employer didn't care in the slightest. Hence, where I work just now won't let parents leave to take care of their sick kids and you have to beg the senior partner for time off if your parent has died. You may or may not get paid for the time off, depending on his mood. Like I said, I work for a firm of lawyers.


We should question anything we like, actually! Thankfully, this is still a free country!

Absolutely. But at least I'm not calling yours sh[ii[/ite. I do have the capacity to respect the views of other people even though I don't agree with them. And I don't agree that giving birth - unless it is unusually hazardous - is any reason for in this case a well paid rugby league player playing in a crucial match to be allowed to leave during the match thus possibly making things exceptionally difficult for his team mates and deeply disappointing for the fans, many of whom will have paid hard earned cash to be there.

I'd go with the POV that we are better abandoning Wellens for this match and playing Lomax instead. At least then we won't be one man down on the bench if people start hobbling off the pitch again or get their faces smashed in.

What exactly do you class as a very recent thing? I know for a fact that when I was born my father was allowed the time off work needed to be present and that was 25 years ago!

Sounds more like a load of Neanderthal heartless b@stds to me. I bet you are really proud to work for this company and would be prepared to go the extra mile for them? They don't specialise in employment law by any chance do they?

Anyone who stayed with such a company needs to get a grip of themselves and realise what priorities are in life. Lawyers are incredibly slow and ineffecient, so taking a day off to be at the birth of your child is hardly going to cause an outrage.

Work is work, it pays the bills. You give as much to it as you are prepared to in order to get a higher salary. BUT if you are the kind of person who accepts not being able to go the birth of your child because of work, you are not the kind of person who should be having children in the first place.

When Wellens kid is 5 maybe your firm could hire him and send him sweeping chimneys.

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i think its a weird one this game. i honestly think its a win win for both teams.

if you win you get to have a real good crack at winning the cup.

but if you lose you get all that rest before the play offs, maybe 4 weeks off more than the winner.

to be honest i would prefer the title rather than the cup? but would love the day out!!

its a funny one! im just looking forward to it whatever the out come

I couldn't possibly comment.




Yeah, it's called the one minute mile. It takes me one minute to shut down the PC, collect my stuff and get to the security feature to release myself spot on the finish time.




They know all about it and so can comfortably skirt it but no, they are ambulance chasers.


I know what my priorities are in life: supporting myself.


Wrong approach. Lawyers love money. They make hoards of it. Their firms are ruled by a handful of partners who have many cars and many houses. They squeeze the last droplet of everything from staff: no sick pay, no paid compassionate leave, minimal annual leave, no flexi time.


I'm not a lawyer, I just work for a firm of lawyers. They pay well for what I do but the reason I went for the job was because it was the only one around at the time when I moved back over here.


I'm retraining soon as a primary school teacher. If I was a bloke and my wife was about to give birth, would you as a parent (if you were one) be happy for me to walk out of the class at a moment's notice to attend the birth of my child?

Just wondering.

Our esteemed leader GH:

"The team that doesn't win this weekend will be big favourites to win Super League," said the Leeds chief.

"Losing in the fourth round will give them four free weekends in the lead up to the play-offs.

"Last year, Saints and Leeds were fully occupied every week, up to and including the cup semi-final stage.

"I think the team that doesn't win on Sunday will have a significant advantage going into the play-offs.

"There will be some consolation for the team that doesn't win, though it won't seem so at the time."

Hetherington added: "Of course it is possible to win both, especially for Leeds and Saints, who are two outstanding teams. But for Sunday's winning team, it will be that much more difficult to win the league."

Hetherington refused to reveal which competition is Rhinos' number one target.

He said: "We have an opportunity to create history by winning three successive Grand Finals.

"That is very much in our focus, right throughout the club.

"But, equally, we haven't won the Challenge Cup for 10 years.

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They must not, under any circumstances WHATSOEVER, be allowed to make history ...! (Except maybe to be the first club in the SL era to miss two opportunities to make history)

The big thing from this game is the loss of revenue for the losing club. A Wembley trip is very lucrative.

Yes, of course I would. Schools have contingency plans such as head teachers and department heads who can cover lessons. Being at the birth of your child is one of life's essential things. The only people who I would not expect to be given that time off are those in the armed forces, as dashing back from the front line isn't really a viable option. Working in a law firm isn't a valid excuse to miss out, and if it were me, I would tell them where to stick their refusal to grant leave and walk out. Money, houses and cars are all very nice if you like that kind of materialistic thing, but people are more important, particularly your young ones.

Just who is this law firm you work for? I'm going to send them a letter.

I agree with this, for saints at least this is more important financially and the chairman down will be well aware.

Hmmm great minds think alike

Think he is being a bit presumtious there, and a bit disrespective to the other teams in thinking that whoever wins is gonna have the disadvantage of having to play four games.

There is nothing to say that whoever wins on Sunday will get a bad draw and lose in the next round.

totally true that mate!! but the team that wins on sunday wont be far of the final in my opinion

there well could be an upset in the next round but the winner of this could also get fev, fax or the vikings?

Or Wigan.

So when do we reckon it's going to kick off? Chance of a first tackle sending off ala Morley for GB? Or do we think it'll be when a certain player comes off the bench for Leeds?

He said the team that lose will have the advantage of 4 free weeks, It does sound a little cocky but he didn't say the winner will definitely have 4 more games.

That could be a key moment.
Bluey has already said we are aiming to win the penalty count so discipline will be crucial.

Quote ="rhinoms"That could be a key moment. Bluey has already said we are aiming to win the penalty count so discipline will be crucial.'" Good luck with that! Leeds have 4 players in the top 25 penalty machines so far this year, Saints have non www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 On a seperate note, i think the whole ryan bailey/ graham thing will pass peacefully (ish) but there may be trouble elsewhere, but i hope not.

Quote ="rhinoms"That could be a key moment. Bluey has already said we are aiming to win the penalty count so discipline will be crucial.'" Good luck with that! Leeds have 4 players in the top 25 penalty machines so far this year, Saints have non www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 On a seperate note, i think the whole ryan bailey/ graham thing will pass peacefully (ish) but there may be trouble elsewhere, but i hope not.