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| Turner did ok at 6 in the few games he did there but he's never a 6 in a million years. I hope he puts fages there but imo Burns should get picked at 6 to start.
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| Is that article for real?? Sounds like a bore fest to open the season. Not the attitude surely to be talking about percentages/the arm wrestle?! Doesn't bode well.
I don't see the logic in signing Fages and not playing him at 6 with burns out. Instead we are putting a centre there who hasn't got a passing or kicking game? We would be going with effectively one hb who will be under even more pressure.
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| Quote ="St pete"Turner did ok at 6 in the few games he did there but he's never a 6 in a million years. I hope he puts fages there but imo Burns should get picked at 6 to start.'"
Don't like Turner at 6, he's no attacking threat at 6 would sooner have him at 3 the lesser of the 2 evils. We've got Walsh, Burns and Fages battling for the half back spots, Percy, Turner and Peyroux battling for centre position, Lomax, McDonnell and Owens battling for the full back. Can't see the point of a player being out of position unless we have a pile of injuries.
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| I thought Turner was a better 6 than burns towards the back end of the season as burns seemed to have lost his mojo after the first 8 or so games( probably after his face was smashed).
However that's fine when he is your only choice to replace burns but Fages is proven at this level and will benefit from a freer role at 6.
Putting Turner at 6 suggests to me a huge lack of trust in his defence, so much so they are willing to sacrifice his proven strike record for a safe pair of hands.
So Peyroux will need to up his game before the fans start calling for Turner to be moved back as he's not exactly setting hearts or minds alight so far.
Huddersfield always start well and despite bedroom antics in the off season will be well drilled.
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| i want exciting, expansive rugby more than anyone. I moaned about it enough last season but he's right, you have to play the conditions (and they're awful at the min) by giving your forwards momentum and direction. 2 fresh interchange hookers will provide you with that.
Win the arm-wrestle, try and get some points on the board and then the confidence will come to chance their arm a bit by using a bit of width when they're 8+ and not 8 behind and desperately trying to get back into it.
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| I'd like to see us go
Owens
Makinson
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Swift
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Walsh
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Roby
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Wilkin
Walmsley
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I hope i'm wrong and Theo is 6. Turner offers very little at 6 apart from barging over the line when close enough. If he's not at centre he shouldn't be in there for me.
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| I've been told Fages and Greenwood miss out. Turner at 6. If true KC had better hope we win, if not then its pitch fork time.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I've been told Fages and Greenwood miss out. Turner at 6. If true KC had better hope we win, if not then its pitch fork time.'"
Surely that cannot be true?
Interesting to see Warrington's drastic improvement over last season tonight. Surprisingly they look a competent and dangerous side now, amazing what investing in improving your squad can do. We on the other hand seem hell bent on alienating the fans and annoying as many people as humanly possible. The quotes from KC this week don't bode well and nor do the rumours about team selection. If Peyroux is a starting centre for us this year, we're in for a tough time.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I've been told Fages and Greenwood miss out. Turner at 6. If true KC had better hope we win, if not then its pitch fork time.'"
I'd be disappointed if true, Greenwood is a strike forward which every team needs and Fages should be starting at 6.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I thought Turner was a better 6 than burns towards the back end of the season as burns seemed to have lost his mojo after the first 8 or so games( probably after his face was smashed).
However that's fine when he is your only choice to replace burns but Fages is proven at this level and will benefit from a freer role at 6.
Putting Turner at 6 suggests to me a huge lack of trust in his defence, so much so they are willing to sacrifice his proven strike record for a safe pair of hands.
So Peyroux will need to up his game before the fans start calling for Turner to be moved back as he's not exactly setting hearts or minds alight so far.
[uHuddersfield always start well[/u and despite bedroom antics in the off season will be well drilled.'"
We lost 0-19 to Hull FC first up last year.
Having said that we do look better prepared this year.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"i want exciting, expansive rugby more than anyone. I moaned about it enough last season but he's right, you have to play the conditions (and they're awful at the min) by giving your forwards momentum and direction. 2 fresh interchange hookers will provide you with that. '"
I don't think anyone is suggesting that we should throw it about in torrential storms. I just think to come out, 4/5 days before a match (the season opener), and talk sbout percentages and the arm wrestle isn't positive at all - especially after last season. Even if this is the plan why provide those comments? He is aware that fans would pick up on it. Strange really
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| Quote ="TBC"We lost 0-19 to Hull FC first up last year.
Having said that we do look better prepared this year.
Looking forward to some live rugby.'"
lost our first 3 games last season!
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"I'd be disappointed if true, Greenwood is a strike forward which every team needs and Fages should be starting at 6.'"
If you won't be playing Greenwood can we have him? He's exactly what we are looking for!
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| Quote ="Albion"I don't think anyone is suggesting that we should throw it about in torrential storms. I just think to come out, 4/5 days before a match (the season opener), and talk sbout percentages and the arm wrestle isn't positive at all - especially after last season. Even if this is the plan why provide those comments? He is aware that fans would pick up on it. Strange really'"
I know what you mean mate. I'm just hoping that he's referring to getting the basics right first. Defence, completing the sets and winning the arm wrestle is the foundation for playing entertaining rugby and was definitely the foundation for Daniel Anderson's success.
I agree, he could sound more positive. Hopefully that will come with experience.
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| One thing I want to see in the next couple of games is control of our discipline, we where one of the worse teams in super league last year for giving away penalties. If we are concentrating on defence this season we don't want to see all those fouls given on the 4th and 5th tackles. Defence, kicking game then attack in that order please.
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| Fears allayed?
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| I thought it was very good performance for first game of the year in terrible conditions. We played conditions really well. I'm pretty happy with the performance and effort.
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| Yes that was what I wanted for a first game in difficult conditions, good defence and reasonable discipline, thought our new recruits did OK. Is Thompson our new impact forward, Kyle worked his socks off. In balance the Giants looked a bit undercooked and didn't really offer any prolonged threat, they did seem to get a lot of moment and points from some dubious ref decisions.
I think KC called the right game plan keep it tight, good kicking game and put pressure into points.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Yes that was what I wanted for a first game in difficult conditions, good defence and reasonable discipline, thought our new recruits did OK. Is Thompson our new impact forward, Kyle worked his socks off. In balance the Giants looked a bit undercooked and didn't really offer any prolonged threat, they did seem to get a lot of moment and points from some dubious ref decisions.
I think KC called the right game plan keep it tight, good kicking game and put pressure into points.'"
Thompson has a lot to prove this year, can't have another season like last. He's got a lot of talent and I really rate him.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Fears allayed?'"
Not at all. I thought tonight's outcome was great. We got a win against Huddersfield which isn't easy. The only real negative is a potentially serious injury to Roby. Does anyone know how he is?
I think we were helped greatly by the weather tonight. It was so wet for the first half an hour that it wasn't really a game where the strengths of each side could be tested. It was a case of respecting the ball, playing it incredibly simply and doing the basics. We scored three tries from kicks tonight which whilst well executed can sometimes gloss over a side's lack of intent in an attacking sense. I'm not saying that's the case, just that given the weather it's impossible to say.
We just had the heavier players and put the points on the board through and when it stopped raining finally Huddersfield really had to chase the game. Given the energy sapping slog they'd had it was an impossible ask of them.
In terms of players, Owens did a solid job. He's a limited player, but fine as cover. I thought both wingers had shockers and neither looked in good shape, perhaps understandable. Percival played really well and Peyroux was solid and improved after costing us a try. He's got to concentrate on not shooting out of the line so much, he really can't contain himself at the moment. Doesn't look like he'll offer anything with the ball though, his signing as a centre remains a mystery.
Luke Walsh had a really good game I thought, coming up with several small but crucial moments that really helped us. In the pack I thought Thompson and Savelio were the picks, but LMS should get Man of the Match for his ridiculous enthusiasm levels and that barnstorming run. Was LMS's run the only clean break we made in the game? It certainly seemed like the only moment we threatened to run clear of the Huddersfield line. But I've got to give credit to KC. Whether he knew it would be wet and planned accordingly or whether that was plan A and only plan A exists is something we cannot judge, so for know he has to get the benefit of the doubt.
The game was a world away from Thursday's game in intensity and quality. It felt like a friendly tonight at times and there was literally no atmosphere at all. The fans have got to improve, makes me sick when some of you rip into the players when as fans we're absolutely pathetic. Red Vee sent out a Tweet saying LP would be rocking and I had to laugh at that. Bar possibly a derby here and there the place is a soulless vacuum and I don't think it's the fault of the stadium design as much as the fans. Having the 'home' end behind the sticks was a tragic move however, should have been one side like at Leeds and Warrington. It just strikes me that the average age in the 'home' stand behind the sticks is too high. It's the people who went in the Popular Stand at KR, but they've grown up and become boring and don't sing or chant or get drunk enough to create a meaningful atmosphere. FFS sort it out. Saints could help, some better music pre game and during would help, as would some disco and fairy lights. It's almost like we need something to riot about to get the fans back into it. Hopefully a better attacking intent from the team and an acknowledgement of their lameness by the fans can help improve things.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Not at all. I thought tonight's outcome was great. We got a win against Huddersfield which isn't easy. The only real negative is a potentially serious injury to Roby. Does anyone know how he is?
I think we were helped greatly by the weather tonight. It was so wet for the first half an hour that it wasn't really a game where the strengths of each side could be tested. It was a case of respecting the ball, playing it incredibly simply and doing the basics. We scored three tries from kicks tonight which whilst well executed can sometimes gloss over a side's lack of intent in an attacking sense. I'm not saying that's the case, just that given the weather it's impossible to say.
We just had the heavier players and put the points on the board through and when it stopped raining finally Huddersfield really had to chase the game. Given the energy sapping slog they'd had it was an impossible ask of them.
In terms of players, Owens did a solid job. He's a limited player, but fine as cover. I thought both wingers had shockers and neither looked in good shape, perhaps understandable. Percival played really well and Peyroux was solid and improved after costing us a try. He's got to concentrate on not shooting out of the line so much, he really can't contain himself at the moment. Doesn't look like he'll offer anything with the ball though, his signing as a centre remains a mystery.
Luke Walsh had a really good game I thought, coming up with several small but crucial moments that really helped us. In the pack I thought Thompson and Savelio were the picks, but LMS should get Man of the Match for his ridiculous enthusiasm levels and that barnstorming run. Was LMS's run the only clean break we made in the game? It certainly seemed like the only moment we threatened to run clear of the Huddersfield line. But I've got to give credit to KC. Whether he knew it would be wet and planned accordingly or whether that was plan A and only plan A exists is something we cannot judge, so for know he has to get the benefit of the doubt.
The game was a world away from Thursday's game in intensity and quality. It felt like a friendly tonight at times and there was literally no atmosphere at all. The fans have got to improve, makes me sick when some of you rip into the players when as fans we're absolutely pathetic. Red Vee sent out a Tweet saying LP would be rocking and I had to laugh at that. Bar possibly a derby here and there the place is a soulless vacuum and I don't think it's the fault of the stadium design as much as the fans. Having the 'home' end behind the sticks was a tragic move however, should have been one side like at Leeds and Warrington. It just strikes me that the average age in the 'home' stand behind the sticks is too high. It's the people who went in the Popular Stand at KR, but they've grown up and become boring and don't sing or chant or get drunk enough to create a meaningful atmosphere. FFS sort it out. Saints could help, some better music pre game and during would help, as would some disco and fairy lights. It's almost like we need something to riot about to get the fans back into it. Hopefully a better attacking intent from the team and an acknowledgement of their lameness by the fans can help improve things.'"
agree with your comments regarding atmosphere-its not a patch on KR and never will be IMO.I think thats why we have lost so many games at LP since it was opened .I am an old fart(5icon_cool.gif who used to stand near the dug outs under the main stand at KR.I now stand behind the sticks.!
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| Quote ="Twentyman"Thompson has a lot to prove this year, can't have another season like last. He's got a lot of talent and I really rate him.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Our pack is looking quite workmanlike now and strong in depth.'"
This is how I prefer it to be honest mate. I think Mose was a luxury, like when our nans used to have a room 'for best'. The other lads were having to put in more tackles, more carries etc to compensate for essentially being down to 16 men most weeks. Having that extra 'honest' forward means the work gets spread about more and therefore less heavy legs and predictability which comes from a tired team.
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| Does it look like fages is gonna get started? Got him on my fantasy team expecting big things.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Does it look like fages is gonna get started? Got him on my fantasy team expecting big things.
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