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| SAINTS have announced their 19-man squad for Sunday's World Club Challenge against South Sydney Rabbitohs.
Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook and Luke Thompson come into the squad for Lance Hohaia and Greg Richards.
Keiron Cunningham will choose from:
1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 17. Mark Percival, 18. Luke Thompson, 20. Paul Wellens, 21. Joe Greenwood, 25. Andre Savelio.
Bunnies' coach Michael Maguire has already named his starting 13 - with his substitutes to be decided before the match.
It is:
1. Greg Inglis, 2. Alex Johnston, 3. Dylan Walker, 4. Bryson Goodwin, 5. Joel Reddy, 6. Luke Keary, 7. Adam Reynolds, 8. George Burgess, 9. Issac Luke, 10. David Tyrrell, 11. Glenn Stewart, 12. John Sutton, 13. Jason Clark.
Subs from: Thomas Burgess, Tim Grant, Chris Grevsmuhl, Ben Lowe, Cameron McInnes, Chris McQueen, Daryl Millard.
The game kicks off at 7pm and the referee will be Richard Silverwood.
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| Very interesting Hohaia has dropped out ... Does this imply KC doesn't see him as a solution to interchange with Roby?
Lomax
Makinson Percival Turner Swift
Burns Wilkin
Amor Roby Masoe
Greenwood Vea
LMS
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Very interesting Hohaia has dropped out ... Does this imply KC doesn't see him as a solution to interchange with Roby?
Lomax
Makinson Percival Turner Swift
Burns Wilkin
Amor Roby Masoe
Greenwood Vea
LMS
Jones Savelio Thompson Walmsley'"
It means, as many thought, Wilkin can't be dropped.
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| Quote ="roader"It means, as many thought, Wilkin can't be dropped.'"
Was Wilkin ever going to be dropped for this game? Whether you agree or disagree with having Wilkin ahead of Hohaia for backup 7, why would you spend the preseason and opening 2 games of the season with one halfback pairing to change now?it would be enough of a risk with Walsh, let alone Hohaia.
The interest with Wilkin will come when Walsh is back. With Greenwood and Vea in good form, and the size of the bench being a major advantage of ours, where does he fit in?
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| Quote ="roader"It means, as many thought, Wilkin can't be dropped.'"
Are you for real? He 100% completely deserves his place in the side from what we've seen so far. You can't underestimate the importance of an experienced, proven winner in games like this.
48 hours from the biggest game in years and people like you are sniping at the captain for no apparent reason. Get a grip man.
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| Lomax
Makinson
Percival
Turner
Swift
Burns
Wilkin (c)
Amor
Roby
Masoe
Greenwood
Vea
McCarthy-Scarsbrook
Bench
Jones
Savelio
Thompson
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On a few sites like Facebook and the rest, a few people want Paul Wellens to start at Full Back or be on the bench due to his exploits in the Grand Final last year. Now I take a different view on this, there is no room for sentiment in this game as we need our strongest 17 players out there that are fit and to be quite honest nobody deserves dropping after last weeks performance despite Salford being so poor. I am totally confident that the team are more than capable of matching it with Sydney, having Wilkin in the halves could especially help us out in defence with him being a extra forward and to people jumping on his back wanting to be dropped is just ridiculous, get behind the guy, he is our leader for crying out loud. Its a shame Luke Walsh isn't fit but I am confident Wilkin and Burns have the ability to guide the team around wish they did superbly against Salford and to some extent against Catalan. If we are only 4-6 points behind in the final quarter then I will back us too win. The first 20 minutes like any Rugby League game is crucial, get in the arm wrestle and dominate and get on top of the Sydney pack, good kicking game and see where it takes us. I am looking forward to hearing 18,500 Saints fans roaring the team on. The players wont leave anything in the dressing room, we as supporters need to make sure we leave nothing left in our voices and make Langtree Park a caldron of noise. I hope everyone enjoys the game...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Very interesting Hohaia has dropped out ... Does this imply KC doesn't see him as a solution to interchange with Roby?'"
Not necessarily. Looking at Souths pack, I think we'll need to fight fire with fire and go big ourselves. I also anticipate Wellens will miss out too as a result.
Bringing Hohaia on for 10-15 minutes seems pointless when Roby will probably play the whole game anyway.
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| Quote ="Longy_7"Lomax
Makinson
Percival
Turner
Swift
Burns
Wilkin (c)
Amor
Roby
Masoe
Greenwood
Vea
McCarthy-Scarsbrook
Bench
Jones
Savelio
Thompson
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On a few sites like Facebook and the rest, a few people want Paul Wellens to start at Full Back or be on the bench due to his exploits in the Grand Final last year. Now I take a different view on this, there is no room for sentiment in this game as we need our strongest 17 players out there that are fit and to be quite honest nobody deserves dropping after last weeks performance despite Salford being so poor. I am totally confident that the team are more than capable of matching it with Sydney, having Wilkin in the halves could especially help us out in defence with him being a extra forward and to people jumping on his back wanting to be dropped is just ridiculous, get behind the guy, he is our leader for crying out loud. Its a shame Luke Walsh isn't fit but I am confident Wilkin and Burns have the ability to guide the team around wish they did superbly against Salford and to some extent against Catalan. If we are only 4-6 points behind in the final quarter then I will back us too win. The first 20 minutes like any Rugby League game is crucial, get in the arm wrestle and dominate and get on top of the Sydney pack, good kicking game and see where it takes us. I am looking forward to hearing 18,500 Saints fans roaring the team on. The players wont leave anything in the dressing room, we as supporters need to make sure we leave nothing left in our voices and make Langtree Park a caldron of noise. I hope everyone enjoys the game...'"
Good post Longy 7
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Looks like very heavy rain for your game on Sunday.
Who do think it'll favour?
Nightmare for the wingers and fullbacks from high kicks?
Would that be a reason for having Wellens in the squad i.e experience?
www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weat ... 1424563200
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Looks like very heavy rain for your game on Sunday.
Who do think it'll favour?
Nightmare for the wingers and fullbacks from high kicks?
Would that be a reason for having Wellens in the squad i.e experience?
www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weat ... 1424563200
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| Wellens and Flanagan to miss out for me.
But I know others prefer Flanagan to Jones.
I'd imagine Lance was not in the squad as they would rather have the extra forward on the bench, rather than trial a new halfback partnership in this game or give Roby a break for 20 mins of the match.
We'll need those 60+ tackles from Roby.
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| Give Wilkin a forward pack that doesn't require his services as a yardage maker and he's outstanding.
Ever since the arrival of Amor, Walmsley and Masoe the pressure has really been taken off him. It's noticeable that his kicking game has improved out of sight. And he's invariably there to steady the ship in those critical twenty minutes after half time.
The last time he was this influential was under Anderson when, co-incidentally, we had a similarly big pack.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Are you for real? He 100% completely deserves his place in the side from what we've seen so far. You can't underestimate the importance of an experienced, proven winner in games like this.
48 hours from the biggest game in years and people like you are sniping at the captain for no apparent reason. Get a grip man.'"
Both of you are right. Wilkin can't be dropped and roader needs to get a grip.
Wilkin deserves his spot at the moment. When Walsh comes back and whether greenwood is kept is the time to air that argument.
Leaving out hohaia is a mistake. Interchange hooker , flexibility in the halves and backs and a bit of dog in defence.
The rest of the squad is spot on.
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"Both of you are right. Wilkin can't be dropped and roader needs to get a grip.
Wilkin deserves his spot at the moment. When Walsh comes back and whether greenwood is kept is the time to air that argument.
Leaving out hohaia is a mistake. Interchange hooker , flexibility in the halves and backs and a bit of dog in defence.
The rest of the squad is spot on.'"
Roby is more than capable of doing the full 80 minutes for you. When I watch him he actually seems to get better the longer he is on the pitch. He will cause Souths loads of problems on Sunday.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Looks like very heavy rain for your game on Sunday.
Who do think it'll favour?
Nightmare for the wingers and fullbacks from high kicks?
Would that be a reason for having Wellens in the squad i.e experience?
www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weat ... 1424563200'"
He's been in the squad for the 2 league games.
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Looks like very heavy rain for your game on Sunday.
Who do think it'll favour?
Nightmare for the wingers and fullbacks from high kicks?
Would that be a reason for having Wellens in the squad i.e experience?
www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weat ... 1424563200'"
He's been in the squad for the 2 league games.
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I can see St Helens winning this game. South Sydney struggled in the Charity Shield and were only saved by two late tries to draw level with the Dragons. St Helens have more game time under their belt and coming off a huge win. They deserve favouritism
Preview: www.nothingbutleague.com/st-hele ... c-preview/
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I can see St Helens winning this game. South Sydney struggled in the Charity Shield and were only saved by two late tries to draw level with the Dragons. St Helens have more game time under their belt and coming off a huge win. They deserve favouritism
Preview: www.nothingbutleague.com/st-hele ... c-preview/
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Quote ="mp1977"I can see St Helens winning this game. South Sydney struggled in the Charity Shield and were only saved by two late tries to draw level with the Dragons. St Helens have more game time under their belt and coming off a huge win. They deserve favouritism
Preview: www.nothingbutleague.com/st-hele ... c-preview/'"
Souths have a very big pack but if our pack can get the better of them we in with a big chance. It will be interesting how they go without big Sam Burgess who was their big game player and leader.
It's a shame walsh wasn't fit to play as Id really really fancy our chances.
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Preview: www.nothingbutleague.com/st-hele ... c-preview/'"
Souths have a very big pack but if our pack can get the better of them we in with a big chance. It will be interesting how they go without big Sam Burgess who was their big game player and leader.
It's a shame walsh wasn't fit to play as Id really really fancy our chances.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"He's been in the squad for the 2 league games.'"
I realise that.
Sorry, what I meant was would he be included in the 17 for his experience, especially taking into account the weather forecast?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I realise that.
Sorry, what I meant was would he be included in the 17 for his experience, especially taking into account the weather forecast?'"
I wouldn't play him. What's the point even if it's raining ? He's not taking lomax position and he can't basically play anywhere else. He's now a squad player and the is a number of players in front of them.
No player has played poor enough to be left out either.
I'd go with same 17 as salford but with Walmsley starting and Mose on the bench.
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| Quote ="St pete"I wouldn't play him. What's the point even if it's raining ? He's not taking lomax position and he can't basically play anywhere else. He's now a squad player and the is a number of players in front of them.
No player has played poor enough to be left out either.
I'd go with same 17 as salford but with Walmsley starting and Mose on the bench.'"
I'd start Mose. He has known beef with George B, and letting them front up can go a long way for us matching them in the opening exchanges which will be important. I'd start with LMS at lock for the same reason...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"I'd start Mose. He has known beef with George B, and letting them front up can go a long way for us matching them in the opening exchanges which will be important. I'd start with LMS at lock for the same reason...'"
I don't like mose starting. We have to make a sub after 8 mins which is a waste. Leave him on the bench and let Amor and big Alex soften them up for mose and sav.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I realise that.
Sorry, what I meant was would he be included in the 17 for his experience, especially taking into account the weather forecast?'"
He won't be in the 17. It'll be the same as last week I think.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"He won't be in the 17. It'll be the same as last week I think.'"
Hi mate, I've had no team news this week which is strange. I'm wondering if the is going to be a surprise in the team due to injury.
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| Quote ="St pete"Hi mate, I've had no team news this week which is strange. I'm wondering if the is going to be a surprise in the team due to injury.'"
I wouldn't be surprised if Walsh played
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I wouldn't be surprised if Walsh played'"
He's not
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| Same team as Salford, so Wello and Jones to miss out.
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