Sorry its late (due to ill health) but this is my account of my Grand Final.

It started off at my local pub in Appley Bridge in Wigan. All the boys were together and in high spirits. I was the only Saints fan in the party and I was told on many occasion what Wigan were going to do to us and how St Helens had no chance of winning the Grand Final. I simply replied on every occasion I got some abuse "Talk is cheap its doing it that counts!!!" In my heart of hearts I honestly was going into the Grand Final knowing defeat was almost a certainty. We had no Jonny Lomax, Luke Walsh and Jon Wilkin. I knew we would have to have the game of our lives to even come close.

Heading into Manchester the banter was again going from me and the Wigan supporters which to be honest I enjoy the craic. Again the Pies were so sure of themselves that victory was secured they started playing "We are the Champions!!!" It was only then I started to believe that maybe this could be our day but kept that to myself because I didn't want friends of mine knowing haha!

Dropped off our bags at the Hotel in Deansgate and went for a very nice meal at Sams Chophouse (which I can strongly recommend) and headed off to the Tollgate Pub just around the corner from Old Trafford!!!

After a few beers we started walking to the ground my heart was beating as fast as anyone could imagine (was that a good sign???) I was starting to feel more confident but still keeping my council infront of my pie eating mates, still playing down that Saints are there for the taking. Once we got into the ground I heard the news that Micky McIllorum wouldn't be playing and as soon as I told a few mates they looked at me in horror thinking I was winding them up. Sam Powell at Nine wouldn't be that much of a problem to us I felt and the loss of McIllorum would help us greatly.

As the teams walked out from the tunnel I had tears in my eyes, (I am not ashamed to admit that as I was confident something special was about to be witnessed) Then the game kicked off. I knew Saints were serious up for it because of the terrific shot on Dom Crosby by Mose Masoe in the first hit up, that gave even more confidence. Obviously as everyone knows after 90 or so seconds of the Grand Final Ben Flower was sent off and I knew then it was going to be our day. Although we were behind on the scoreboard at half time I wasn't unduly worried. I knew we would get chances in the second half and the Wigan side would obviously tire towards the end of the game. The Second Half was like a whirlwind for me. We went ahead but there weren't any real signs of Wigan tiring and were constant threat. I have to say some of our defence was quite possible some of the best, if the not the best I have ever witnessed from a Saints side. It was quite incredible, the dedication to one another and there never say die attitude was truly magnificent and inspiring. When Tommy Makinson collected the high ball and scored and there around 10 minutes left to play I knew we were almost there! Then for my most embarrassing moment haha! I looked to my left (with around 90 seconds to go and the game was safe) and saw the Saints fans, waving the flags, willing there side home and signing asloud at Old Trafford as I have ever heard them, memories came flooding back of our 5 Grand Final defeats and the pain we all suffered, the ridicule we had all taken and I burst into tears!!! (the first and only time I have done this by the way!!!) It was tears of absolute and utter joy that finally we had got that fat monkey off our backs. Most definitely my proudest moment being a Saints fan and boy did the party start then!

A very good friend of mine at a hotel bar after we got changed and ready for a night out came up too be with a very large Vodka and Coke and said "Won have won the Grand Final by default (he was joking), but to see the sheer joy on your face was great to see even if it did break my heart to see Wigan lose, we have given you some s**t over the years and you have taken it, your a legend, you deserve it but boy your going to have a fight on your hands next year because Wigan will be back stronger than ever!!! Enjoy your win kid!!!"

That was my Grand Final and I have to say it was the best of the lot that we have won previously! I get shivers down my spine thinking off it now!

Thanks for reading!

Nice one. Enjoyed that.
I had to watch it on my iPad in Australia about a week later without knowing the score so it was quite the same feeling for me although it was an amazing feeling when making on took the ball

Honestly I was never confident because Wigan just didn't stop.
Amazing win for saints under the circumstances. I think I will watch in again today.

I've watched the final loads of times to the point i know what time to put in my Sky Plus for the best bits

Sad but true

Radlinski's thoughts. The rest of the blog is a good read for anyone with a general RL interest, albeit with an obvious Wigan slant. "2015 Pre-season Part 1 10/12/2014 11:33:18 In order to know where you are going, its important to know where you have been. A lot has happened since the end of the season. The Grand Final defeat against St.Helens was a very hard one to take. Often with losses, you have the opportunity to put things right the following week when you play again, but when the Grand Final is the last game of the season and you lose, the wound remains open a lot longer and often gets infected!!! We went into the Grand Final feeling very strong and playing some good Rugby League but then something happened which threw us off course. The sending off of Ben Flower in the opening minutes of the game reinforced that no matter how well prepared you are going into a game, you can't predict every eventuality. The sending off obviously affected us but it also raised St.Helens' belief. The game will be remembered for the incident which gave the sport unprecedented worldwide interest but I am a big believer in giving credit to the winning side. Saints had the spirit to believe that they could win and capped off a remarkable season with my old mate Paul Wellens lifting the Super League trophy. Well done to the Saints." www.wiganwarriors.com/WBlogp.aspx?id=13

Radlinski's thoughts. The rest of the blog is a good read for anyone with a general RL interest, albeit with an obvious Wigan slant. "2015 Pre-season Part 1 10/12/2014 11:33:18 In order to know where you are going, its important to know where you have been. A lot has happened since the end of the season. The Grand Final defeat against St.Helens was a very hard one to take. Often with losses, you have the opportunity to put things right the following week when you play again, but when the Grand Final is the last game of the season and you lose, the wound remains open a lot longer and often gets infected!!! We went into the Grand Final feeling very strong and playing some good Rugby League but then something happened which threw us off course. The sending off of Ben Flower in the opening minutes of the game reinforced that no matter how well prepared you are going into a game, you can't predict every eventuality. The sending off obviously affected us but it also raised St.Helens' belief. The game will be remembered for the incident which gave the sport unprecedented worldwide interest but I am a big believer in giving credit to the winning side. Saints had the spirit to believe that they could win and capped off a remarkable season with my old mate Paul Wellens lifting the Super League trophy. Well done to the Saints." www.wiganwarriors.com/WBlogp.aspx?id=13

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Radlinski's thoughts. The rest of the blog is a good read for anyone with a general RL interest, albeit with an obvious Wigan slant. "2015 Pre-season Part 1 10/12/2014 11:33:18 In order to know where you are going, its important to know where you have been. A lot has happened since the end of the season. The Grand Final defeat against St.Helens was a very hard one to take. Often with losses, you have the opportunity to put things right the following week when you play again, but when the Grand Final is the last game of the season and you lose, the wound remains open a lot longer and often gets infected!!! We went into the Grand Final feeling very strong and playing some good Rugby League but then something happened which threw us off course. The sending off of Ben Flower in the opening minutes of the game reinforced that no matter how well prepared you are going into a game, you can't predict every eventuality. The sending off obviously affected us but it also raised St.Helens' belief. The game will be remembered for the incident which gave the sport unprecedented worldwide interest but I am a big believer in giving credit to the winning side. Saints had the spirit to believe that they could win and capped off a remarkable season with my old mate Paul Wellens lifting the Super League trophy. Well done to the Saints." www.wiganwarriors.com/WBlogp.aspx?id=13'" You are actually taking the now. I can't believe some of the blatant trolling and derailing that you get away with on here. THIS IS A SAINTS FORUM. STOP PEDDLING YOUR SH!TE ON HERE.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Radlinski's thoughts. The rest of the blog is a good read for anyone with a general RL interest, albeit with an obvious Wigan slant. "2015 Pre-season Part 1 10/12/2014 11:33:18 In order to know where you are going, its important to know where you have been. A lot has happened since the end of the season. The Grand Final defeat against St.Helens was a very hard one to take. Often with losses, you have the opportunity to put things right the following week when you play again, but when the Grand Final is the last game of the season and you lose, the wound remains open a lot longer and often gets infected!!! We went into the Grand Final feeling very strong and playing some good Rugby League but then something happened which threw us off course. The sending off of Ben Flower in the opening minutes of the game reinforced that no matter how well prepared you are going into a game, you can't predict every eventuality. The sending off obviously affected us but it also raised St.Helens' belief. The game will be remembered for the incident which gave the sport unprecedented worldwide interest but I am a big believer in giving credit to the winning side. Saints had the spirit to believe that they could win and capped off a remarkable season with my old mate Paul Wellens lifting the Super League trophy. Well done to the Saints." www.wiganwarriors.com/WBlogp.aspx?id=13'" You are actually taking the now. I can't believe some of the blatant trolling and derailing that you get away with on here. THIS IS A SAINTS FORUM. STOP PEDDLING YOUR SH!TE ON HERE.

Grow up.
It's on topic as it's Radlinskis thought on the GF. The other part is incidental but had to be included as that was where it was quoted from.

Nobody on here is bothered about Radlinski's thoughts though, and you know this, but yet you choose to post it anyway. What's most laughable is then you have the audacity to tell me to grow up.

You are on old man getting his kicks from trying to wind up opposition fans on an internet forum. I feel sorry for you I really do.

If that post winds anybody up I genuinely then I think THEY have the problem. And when did YOU decide what could be posted on where?

And I believe you were told to "grow up" on another thread by a saints fan, but then that's just banter isn't it?

I don't decide. I am simply giving my opinion. An opinion that is shared by many on here.

You know exactly what you're doing. You know full well that nobody on this forum would be interested in Radlinski's comments. But you post it because you then get people like me having a pop and hey presto, you have the attention that you crave.

I know I'm playing right into your hands by even responding to you but it needs saying. You've been banned from one Saints site already for this exact same thing and there's only so much that the Mods on here will put up with before you disappear from here too.

And how do YOU know that?
There may well be some fans on here that will be be pleased with Rads comments, particularly about Paul Wellens, and as I said the post was on topic and relevant, something you should learn.

And when I got banned I took my ban and didn't resort to the childish option of re registering under another name.

Don't be so obtuse Brian. You are ramming anything Wigan-related down the throats of Saints fans at any given opportunity. It is extremely childish and desperate from you.

YG you are always logged on to the Wigan forum and only post when saints are on the up and go missing when things go against them eg last Good Friday. I don't know Brian from Adam but find your comments so distastefu that I had to respond. Don't grow up but learn that these forums are for everyone and as long as their opinions are not offensive.
Do me a personal favour and keep your snide comments to yourself and keep on topic. If you don't like some posters so much go elsewhere with your drivel.
Oh and by the way you never obviously wind people up do you when you post your opinions?

That is absolute nonsense. I don't post on the Wigan forum very often but when I do, it is very very rarely about Saints. Seeing as you've made 6 posts in years you're probably not best placed to comment on my activity on here. Unless you're one of these weird voyeuristic types?

Anyway I won't be doing you any personal favours and I will continue to post my comments as and when I see fit.

I didn't find it a particularly good read to be honest.
i do think it's great he was given the roles he has been given though. It's shows great respect for what he has done for the club.
Nice to see the clubs are doing this to keep players in the game. We see a lot more of that these days.

Regarding his opinion on us being targeted and the season being harder for us.
I think the win was huge for saints. Getting the monkey off our backs, winning the Gf with a depleted team knowing we will have a much better squad (hopefully) for more of the season.
Should make for a good season for Saints. I'm confident, and I havnt been for a couple of years now.

Seems to be working lol

Regards , EW


=#FF00BFAnyway I won't be doing you any personal favours and I will continue to post my comments as and when I see fit.


As does Brian lol

Regards , EW

He does, as is his prerogative. As it is mine to respond.

And believe me I'm far from wound up. I find Brian and his sad little life quite amusing.

You're having one of your spells were you let yourself down at the minute.

30% of the time you're a rational, sensible poster and the rest of the time you talk utter rubbish accusing people of doing the exact things that you're doing constantly (trolling and derailing threads).

Take small steps, try to edge it up to a 50/50 balance in the new year

I'd miss your crazy posts if you went 'straight' but being a bit more sane would be fine.

I think you have the wrong handle on Rogues. Brian is a decent bloke, he does have a historical connection with St Helens locale having spent may years at Pocket Nook.

Haha I'll see what I can do.

Cheers, indeed I spent many happy years at Forsters/Rockware and developed my "debating skills" there. You had to have a sharp wit when you were outnumbered by about 300:1


Happy days and some great characters at the glass works, many now gone (including some of my own family and in-laws) but not forgotten.

I think Rogues is trolling all day long, but he's being pleasant enough about it.



However, nothing he has posted is against the AUP and someone may well be interested in what the Ginger Doormat has to say about losing the Grand Final. So there's nothing wrong with what he's posted.

Really, as with anything like this, if you don't like it just don't read it. It'll save us all a lot of bother.

Fair enough. So trolling is fine as long as it doesn't contravene a specific section of the AUP?

Pretty much!

I'll remember that next time the Mods on the Wigan board start throwing their weight around

Are you still whinging mard ?
If it gets to you so much stop using forums.
Oh and you have never wound anybody up have you?
Soft lad.