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| What was the penalty count, I,m sure Shirley was ref for a couple of instances telling Bentham to award a penalty.
Brown seems to have hit a nerve in the Wane armoury.
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Love it, love it. Stir that pot! Throw some of the stuff back that Wane has been throwing at us over the last couple of years. My opinion of Nathan Brown has just gone up a couple of notches (even though he may end up getting a fine!). Well said coach!
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Love it, love it. Stir that pot! Throw some of the stuff back that Wane has been throwing at us over the last couple of years. My opinion of Nathan Brown has just gone up a couple of notches (even though he may end up getting a fine!). Well said coach!
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| This is where the passion "like wane" that saints fans call for from brown can become a negative, as it makes you vulnerable to manipulation and winding up and losing the plot!
Go Brown go!
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| I'd love to see Wane stuttering and losing control as he's saying Brown should be fined for it.
Love it!!
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| I'm on holiday where they don't know RL. Was the ref as bad as brown says? And is wane just a whinger?
Looks like a great win looking at reports.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I'm on holiday where they don't know RL. Was the ref as bad as brown says? And is wane just a whinger?
Looks like a great win looking at reports.'"
Yes and yes, and yes it was!
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I'm on holiday where they don't know RL. Was the ref as bad as brown says? And is wane just a whinger?
Looks like a great win looking at reports.'"
I never really blame the ref but I thought he was poor tonight
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| I think Brown should have also mentioned the goons obstruction tactics which the ref never policed.
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The ultimate irony is that wane was already trying to subtly point the finger at the ref with:
"I just feel really frustrated at the minute. If a few decisions from the referee had been different we could have had a win. It's fine margins in big games like this."
www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... breaks-out?
Which kind of proves Browns point...
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The ultimate irony is that wane was already trying to subtly point the finger at the ref with:
"I just feel really frustrated at the minute. If a few decisions from the referee had been different we could have had a win. It's fine margins in big games like this."
www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... breaks-out?
Which kind of proves Browns point...
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| Welcome to Wigan Saints Mr Brown.
It's took 18 months but looks like he finally gets it.
Give it too em.
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| Finally!! Excellent from brown.
Wane has just embarrassed himself.
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| Those remarks by Brown may be heard as criticism of the referee.
If the MC reports on it that way to the RFL it could cost Brown a lot of money.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Those remarks by Brown may be heard as criticism of the referee.
If the MC reports on it that way to the RFL it could cost Brown a lot of money.'"
Well I'm not sure how:
"I thought the officiating of the game was horrible, I thought Phil Bentham had an absolutely shocking performance."
Can be taken any other way than criticism of the ref. I can't comment as of yet not having seen the game, but from what I gather most saints fans would tend to agree with the summation (not that that matters on him being fined) - what it does do (and this thread proves) is win him a lot more support from the fans, which he's been lacking at times. If the fine keeps the fans off his back, and keeps him in a job it's money well spent.
Further to that, we all know wane likes to use mind games and the media, this is Browns first time taking him on in that arena, and reduced wane to a stuttering "ape" - which is precisely what saints fans want - and will aid in any future psychology battles (in the playoffs say)
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Those remarks by Brown may be heard as criticism of the referee.
If the MC reports on it that way to the RFL it could cost Brown a lot of money.'"
He was a homer for the Wigan side and ended up reffing just the away side, giving benefit of the doubt to the goons. For the double movement no try I thought they where finding a way to allow it by assuming the saints player lost tackle contact for a couple of nanoseconds.
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| I love all this mind games stuff as long as the coaches know where to draw the line, it's nice to see NB joining in. It adds interest and a bit of spice to it all. I'd love to know if Wane is genuinely rattled or whether that was just the impression he wants to give.
Congrats on a good win. I got in from work just after 9.30 and was gutted to find out it wasn't recording so only watched the last 7 mins.
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| I think Brown has more than a fair point. Bentham was certainly a home refere last night. How many penalties did Wigan get in the last ten minutes?
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| A valid point or not it's good to see NB dishing a bit
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I love all this mind games stuff as long as the coaches know where to draw the line, it's nice to see NB joining in. It adds interest and a bit of spice to it all. I'd love to know if Wane is genuinely rattled or whether that was just the impression he wants to give.
Congrats on a good win. I got in from work just after 9.30 and was gutted to find out it wasn't recording so only watched the last 7 mins.'"
lot of indignation on the matter from a couple over the hill - but this is precisely what it is. Media love Mourinho style mind games and clashes, and the fans can feed off it and it adds that extra something.
Still think being hated by Wigan is the best thing brown could ever do to ensure his job security!
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| "St Helens are a great team, very well coached and I commend them on that win"
Comments by Waney immediately following the game last night.
Brown then comes out with the rubbish he does.
Tell me, who's got the class and who is just crass.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo""St Helens are a great team, very well coached and I commend them on that win"
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Thats rubbish, we are not a great team very well coached, half the season we have been terrible.
Great response from Brown telling how it is, Wane has no respect and last time called us " That Lot", this time round he has been downed and reduced to a stutter.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo""St Helens are a great team, very well coached and I commend them on that win"
Comments by Waney immediately following the game last night.
Brown then comes out with the rubbish he does.
Tell me, who's got the class and who is just crass.'"
Yep.
Quote ="Magilla The Gorilla""I just feel really frustrated at the minute. If a few decisions from the referee had been different we could have had a win. It's fine margins in big games like this." '"
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats rubbish, we are not a great team very well coached, half the season we have been terrible.
Great response from Brown telling how it is, Wane has no respect and last time called us "That Lot", this time round he has been downed and reduced to a stutter.'"
I found his "that lot " pretty disrespectful
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| I could not care less. Brown ain't here to preach to the great unwashed. He's a Saints coach and needs to lay into them lot whilst he can. Just like Wane has done over his years in charge.
Millward was hated by some opposition fans but that attitude of they are all against us worked for the team, the club and the fans.
Mr nice will get you only so far.
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| It's all great entertainment I'm all for stirring the pot, quite happy for Wane to call Saints all manner of names and Brown to do the same before the game as it adds to the spice. I do think after a game though it's important to show respect to the opposition (this is rugby after all!)
Next round of Wigan v Saints is going to be a belter after all this!
As for the officiating, everyone is going to be biased towards their team and I have no problems with Brown saying whatever he likes about the ref, however after the game like that though the first thing he should be doing is congratulating Wello and Wilkin (who won it for you imo)
Good to see he might have finally grown a spine and got into the rivalry,can only make for a great match
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