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| Only a rumour, but a journalist from the Star has tweeted that Nathan Brown is planning on going with Turner at 6 this year.
Anyone else heard something similar?
That would surprise me but I wouldn't necessarily be disappointed. Whilst Turner isn't an established 6 and hasn't had a run of games to prove himself there, he wouldn't be worse than Lance. It would also mean we would get to see Percival on a regular basis and also would allow us to operate Lance as a replacement 9 to spell Roby.
It would also explain the team selection v Batley.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Only a rumour, but a journalist from the Star has tweeted that Nathan Brown is planning on going with Turner at 6 this year.
Anyone else heard something similar?
That would surprise me but I wouldn't necessarily be disappointed. Whilst Turner isn't an established 6 and hasn't had a run of games to prove himself there, he wouldn't be worse than Lance. It would also mean we would get to see Percival on a regular basis and also would allow us to operate Lance as a replacement 9 to spell Roby.
It would also explain the team selection v Batley.'"
I very much doubt it. Probably the lazy journalist has only just found out he played there on friday and has put 2 and 2 together.
That said, he'd probably be better than Lance
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I very much doubt it.'"
Here is the full tweet:
@mike_critchley: Interesting chat with Nathan Brown - Jordan Turner is likely to get first crack at 6
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| Quote ="Albion"Here is the full tweet:
@mike_critchley: Interesting chat with Nathan Brown - Jordan Turner is likely to get first crack at 6'"
I've read it, but all the talk preseason has had Lance at 6. IMO Turner would do a better job there, a good runner to compliment Walsh.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I've read it, but all the talk preseason has had Lance at 6. IMO Turner would do a better job there, a good runner to compliment Walsh.'"
Tbf I've never heard brown say it. I only saw an article about Lance saying it himself.
I see this as a way of using both Percival and Jones, but I worry about Turner's ability to play there long term. He doesn't look a natural HB and doesn't really possess the handling.
I don't see the thinking behind this one at all.
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| Quote ="Albion"Tbf I've never heard brown say it. I only saw an article about Lance saying it himself.
I see this as a way of using both Percival and Jones, but I worry about Turner's ability to play there long term. He doesn't look a natural HB and doesn't really possess the handling.
I don't see the thinking behind this one at all.'"
Probably a holding pattern while we look for a proper 6
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| Didn't Brown say just before the start of last season that he was going with Lomax at #7 and Gaskell at #6?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't Brown say just before the start of last season that he was going with Lomax at #7 and Gaskell at #6?'"
Yes. And he did at first.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't Brown say just before the start of last season that he was going with Lomax at #7 and Gaskell at #6?'"
yep, and that turned out peachy!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't Brown say just before the start of last season that he was going with Lomax at #7 and Gaskell at #6?'"
Yep. But when Lomax changed to 1, he said that that had been the plan all along.
I think I take what Nathan Brown says with a pinch of salt!
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| I don't think he said that it was the plan all along.
I can see some of the benefits of Turner at 6.
He's a runner
He can kick
However it's one thing doing it in training, quite another when the opposition want to hurt you.
Having said that Leon did ok at 6 behind Longy, so a good strong running back can make the transition. You could argue Turner has more skills than Pryce did, but he does not have the bulk.
It would also leave us awfully short in the centre position.
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| Interesting tweet from Saints too:
"Browny has also indicated who he will play at 6 and in the centres this season... Find out more on the Official site this week!"
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I don't think he said that it was the plan all along.
I can see some of the benefits of Turner at 6.
He's a runner
He can kick
However it's one thing doing it in training, quite another when the opposition want to hurt you.
Having said that Leon did ok at 6 behind Longy, so a good strong running back can make the transition. You could argue Turner has more skills than Pryce did, but he does not have the bulk.
It would also leave us awfully short in the centre position.'"
you can definitely argue that turner offers more attacking threat than Lance
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| Quote ="saint87"Interesting tweet from Saints too:
"Browny has also indicated who he will play at 6 and in the centres this season... Find out more on the Official site this week!"'"
If Lance is left out of the plans, surely he'll want out (wishful thinking)
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"you can definitely argue that turner offers more attacking threat than Lance'"
I'd agree with that.
This unexpected news has made me even more excited about the season starting!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"you can definitely argue that turner offers more attacking threat than Lance'"
You can, although my worry is that it means that Lance offers no threat and so we have had to look elsewhere.
This I am not too concerned about, but it's all a bit late in the day, when most had seen enough after 2 years.
Still at least if it is true we will have Roby being spelled with Lance which for me is only a good thing.
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| Quote ="Albion"www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10967063.Jordan_Turner_likely_to_start_Saints_season_at_six/?ref=twtrec'"
Nathan Brown said: "In the pre season we have looked at numbers of options at six.
"Our nine, seven and one are set in stone with Robes, Walshy and Jonny. Six is a spot where we have experimented with numbers in the pre-season but it is probable that we will run with Jordy in that position and use Lance as a utility type player."
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| Quote ="saint87"Interesting tweet from Saints too:
"Browny has also indicated who he will play at 6 and in the centres this season... Find out more on the Official site this week!"'"
Lance to London?
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| Turner won't make a 6 as long as he lives. I was spot on about lance and I'm even more sure that Turner won't work in the halves.
The few times he's gone there he's done a predictable hop skip and step or a run across and drop off. I was pretty confident about this season but we are going to be in the Same boat halfback wise but I've got a feeling Walsh will have a good few halfback partners this year. Turner is not the answer. I'd rather go with Lance, Wilkin or wheeler over Turner.
Why would we move our player of the year out of position?
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| Quote ="St pete"Turner won't make a 6 as long as he lives. I was spot on about lance and I'm even more sure that Turner won't work in the halves.
The few times he's gone there he's done a predictable hop skip and step or a run across and drop off. I was pretty confident about this season but we are going to be in the Same boat halfback wise but I've got a feeling Walsh will have a good few halfback partners this year. Turner is not the answer. I'd rather go with Lance, Wilkin or wheeler over Turner.
Why would we move our player of the year out of position?'"
Just to play devils advocate, what qualities did Leon Pryce have that Turner doesn't?
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| Must admit, my comfidence as certainly dropped now.
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| Quote ="St pete"Turner won't make a 6 as long as he lives. I was spot on about lance and I'm even more sure that Turner won't work in the halves.
The few times he's gone there he's done a predictable hop skip and step or a run across and drop off. I was pretty confident about this season but we are going to be in the Same boat halfback wise but I've got a feeling Walsh will have a good few halfback partners this year. Turner is not the answer. I'd rather go with Lance, Wilkin or wheeler over Turner.
Why would we move our player of the year out of position?'"
What do you want for a 6?
If you want someone to ease the burden of responsibility of organisation off Walsh the person playing 6 is Wilkin.
If you want someone whose going to run at the line and run off the shoulder of forwards looking for the offload, Turner is as good a shout as any. Will he be better than lance? His handling and distribution has a question mark over it but so does lances no? Personally, turner is more likely to make something out of nothing than lance is - aka is less predictable...
I think the comparisons to Leon are pretty fair, let's be honest Leon's distribution was problematic at times too!
It may just be a way to get turner jones and Percival into the same team? Maybe another centre is coming in on lances money? It seems a sudden change so something's a foot...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"What do you want for a 6?
If you want someone to ease the burden of responsibility of organisation off Walsh the person playing 6 is Wilkin.
If you want someone whose going to run at the line and run off the shoulder of forwards looking for the offload, Turner is as good a shout as any. Will he be better than lance? His handling and distribution has a question mark over it but so does lances no? Personally, turner is more likely to make something out of nothing than lance is - aka is less predictable...
I think the comparisons to Leon are pretty fair, let's be honest Leon's distribution was problematic at times too!
It may just be a way to get turner jones and Percival into the same team? Maybe another centre is coming in on lances money? It seems a sudden change so something's a foot...'"
I'm wiling to give Turner the benefit of the donut but I'm not fully confident of him at 6
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Just to play devils advocate, what qualities did Leon Pryce have that Turner doesn't?'"
Talent for one.
I am absolutely gobsmacked by this. It takes a lot to shock me but this has me barely able to come up with words to criticise it. But I will give it a go.
Turner as a centre offered nothing. He got talked up on here as having a great season but the only time he has ever beaten a man at Langtree Park he was in a Hull shirt. At least we'll be spared his horrendous defending in the centres, he can be hidden on the wing now.
Lance has clearly been found out which is good, the fact he remains at the club is another example of how weak the management is. Maurice Lindsey would never have stood for this foolery at Wigan. Just persuade him to request a release, its really not that hard.
So a new low even for us. We're happily planning on going into a season with no centres at all, a comedy prancing 6 and you lot are still giddy with excitement about being destined for glory.
Wheeler at centre anyone?
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