So how does everyone feel about that?

For me we lacked direction in attack and composure in defence.

In terms of attack we bombed far too many chances through bad passes and silly errors, we could have scored a hat full tonight if we had somebody to just provide that killer instinct and capatalise on opportunities.

In defence we were far too nervous, jumping out of the line and leaving gaps for Widnes to go through, That's down to not having confidence in your inside man and poor defensive discipline.











Referring to injuries:

sounds like every game recently. I thought we were bad under Simmons but Brown has brought a whole new dimension to "bad"

We lack everything. Why can't people realise that we are utter rubbish. Its embarrassing.

Fair play to Widnes, they was better than us in every department.

We won't make the top eight, I can't see where the next win will come from. Lucky they scrapped relegation

If Hull KR beat Castleford tomorrow it will put us down to 9th in the table with a hard run ahead of us.

We need to stop kidding ourselves, this team is a mid table team. Its awful and its painful to watch.

Shockingly bad Saints side but this has been coming for 3/4 years.

However all of a sudden opinion seems to have turned against Brown after tonight.

The senior players didn't like Potter , the senior players saw for Royce in the end , the senior players ....(pattern emerging).

The only coach in 5 years brave enough to move wellens. He is giving the kids a chance (unlike rush & Cunningham).
Injuries have been difficult , but the bigger problem is that most of the senior pros at Saints have had it too good for too long and need moving on. Given the circumstances I think he could still lead Saints out
of this dark period.

The young guns are showing excellent commitment and potential but making some mistakes.

The senior pros are having a laugh.



Sacking Brown at this stage would just paper over the cracks again.
Brown needs to be judged but not at this stage.

LMS, Hohiah and Perry need to spend the rest of the season at Swinton, none of them should have a future at Saints. Widnes scored 3 try's off the back of Louies penalty's once again.

Nathan Ashe is a dreadfull player at SL level. Were currently playing without a proper 1, 6, 7 and 9 and its absolutely killing us!

Put wello in that list. He was awful. If he's not fullback he should play at Swinton.

I agree on Ashe, he's not a super league standard player. He's embarrassing to watch.

Isn't your club Batley? Swinton is Warrington's supported club. I'm not trolling believe me.
It's hard at the moment. Had Roby been playing tonight he would have dragged you through that for a win. As players come back, it will bring confidence to others. You never know you could do a Leeds at the end of the season.

A good coach is someone who gets the best out of his players and gets them playing as a team, Brown does neither.

Agreed. And he sends our one remaining halfback off to Salford after three games so that we can enjoy Salford's third choice hooker.

I was bob on about Ashe. What an average player.

People have sympathy with him because of injuries and poor recruitment choice over a couple of years but his team selection tonight was baffling to say the least.

That was really, really bad, the absentees do not excuse the gaping holes in defence, falling off tackles and having no shape at all. I'm eating my words on Brown more every week and I don't like it.

The falling off tackles is nothing new, we have been horrible all season. We seem to have forgotten the basics of defence at times, we wait for players rather than moving in and then we play grab the shirt and let them roll forward another 10 meters. Its crap stuff and wouldnt be acceptable in an amateur team never mind SL.

Shocking attitude by the players, we can blame the coach as much as we want but at the end of the day that performance was the most inept show of professionalism shown by any players in a saints shirt.
Cant pass, can,t tackle, cant support a player.........we have no urgency or energy in the side whatsover.
One of the worse things was our snail pace walk to shape up for the scrum as though they couldn,t be bothered, another incident was Walmsley made a braak and did a great offload to Lance who couldn,t be bothered to watch the ball because he was half a sleep.
If the players can,t be bothered to show any desire then shortly I can,t be bothered to watch and support them.......this is not a saints side.

Ashe was awful, could not believe how poor his passing was. It just looked like he didnt want the ball and was merely chucking it away.

Think the writing is on the wall for Lance considering Brown preferred Howarth to him.

I get the impression that the Saints players and club have written this season off and are merely using it to blood a few kids and wind down the playing days of the old guard.

I missed the game tonight, glad I did too. Any standout players for us?

Thompson and Walmsley

If that is the case then I'd like a refund on my season ticket please.

He's terrible. I wouldn't let him anywhere near the first team again.

Where was everyone playing?

The whole team was playing all over the place.

This is exactly what all Giants fans told you and we were accused of sour grapes, remember we was told Brown had over achieved with a poor Giants side and would take Saints to the next level, think most thought it would be a level up not down!!!

Injuries seem to follow this fella around and as for his team selections, that's a whole topic on its own!

I stand by my comment that was glad to see the back of the man and he hasn't even started the moving back to Oz when a job comes up business yet, way he is going he would struggle to get a job in the Pennine League

Oh aiiii sorry to say this but I am really enjoying seeing the man fail.

and Ade strangely enough.