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| A lot of missed tackles in this match, in fact, the teams tackle completion rate was only 92%. That is remarkably low in a win against Warrington.
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| Very low metres from our forwards, if anything that shows that SKY commentators were talking rubbish again and this game was in fact a tight arm wrestle. The game breaker was indeed Jonny Lomax with some great last ditch defence and 2 try assists.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"'"
Are these the stats for the Warrington match or the Leeds match? They look suspiciously like the Leeds stats to me ...
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Are these the stats for the Warrington match or the Leeds match? They look suspiciously like the Leeds stats to me ...'"
They're the Leeds stats.
Will change them now.
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| Lance seven tackles and four of them missed,poor that.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Lance seven tackles and four of them missed,poor that.'"
Not quite as bad as Gardners with 4 and 3.
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| Big effort from Walker in the tackling stats. Top Tackler.
I agree the stats bear out that it was an even contest, I thought it was on the night.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Lance seven tackles and four of them missed,poor that.'"
That's shocking if the was lomax wheeler or Gaskell we would be going mad and some people would be calling them all the names under the sun
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| Gosh. Somebody has actually beaten James Roby's tackle count in a match! Well in Walker!! (I was especially impressed by his launch from the line at whichever Wire player it was who he made to feel extremely nervous!)
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| It was Micheal Monaghan. It put pressure on for sure. But he is not just big and aggressive in the tackle. He does a hell of a lot of talking in the tackle, showing he can keep a cool head and control the tackle well.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"It was Micheal Monaghan. It put pressure on for sure. But he is not just big and aggressive in the tackle. He does a hell of a lot of talking in the tackle, showing he can keep a cool head and control the tackle well.'"
All good stuff!
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| Quote ="1984saints"That's shocking if the was lomax wheeler or Gaskell we would be going mad and some people would be calling them all the names under the sun'"
Oh I know,theyre actually the sort of stats that have got players dropped to a lower league.
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| Some great and some awful stats for the team.
Lance & Ade - you know who I'm talking about !
I'm just pleased my eyes didn't deceive me on the night.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Oh I know,theyre actually the sort of stats that have got players dropped to a lower league.'"
Certain players anyway. Others appear to be entirely immune.
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| and again, fail to stop Robes, you lose
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| Meli stats in attack look good
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"and again, fail to stop Robes, you lose'"
Not so actually. If it hadn't been for Lomax at the back and his great try savers, Wire could have won. While Roby looked more like his old self, Friday was much more of a team effort and we had more than one threat on the pitch.
We had two of them!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"and again, fail to stop Robes, you lose'"
Roby’s stats against Leeds were pretty reasonable. It is more like run up in defence and stop the pack from making metres and you beat Saints. If Warrington had tried to run straight against us instead of passing from touchline to touchline they would have probably won. They did seem rather work shy. It is funny you take Morley, Waterhouse and Briers out that team and they look really ordinary.
I guess it was not a game that was won by making big metres. The stats reflect that LMS had a good game, when he has played well we have won and vice-versa. I don't know if that is coincidence or a factor? Again if the Wire pack had been physical then he would have probably not had as good a game.
Hats off to Walker for leading the tackle count, he is starting to look like a hard working defensive forward, more a classic number 12 than a prop. We have been missing someone like that since Mike Bennett retired.
Players like Ade missed a few tackles but that was mostly done coming out the line when Wire had overlaps. You can get a good hit in and it still count as a missed tackle, even if you stop an opponent’s progress enough to kill off the move. I think this is a case of the stats not being fair to him.
One strange one is Flanagan. He seems to do quite a bit during the game but when you look at the stats he has actually not done as much as you think. No big metres and only 20 odd tackles, not the best return for a working forward. You feel he could do a lot more.
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| To be be fair to flanagan he did the first 20 when Wire never had the ball ,so pretty difficult to get the tackle count up . On the other hand it does highlight his limitations in attack.
Similar to young Walker who did a great tackling stint last 20mins of the first half and first 15 of second when both teams were in a set for set arm wrestle
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| Very impressed with Walker's defence, but the downside for me is Jones' go forward, or lack of it. He offers nothing in attack I'm afraid.
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| The one thing stats don't mention is that Hohaia was playing his first game after missing three with his shoulder injury.
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| Stats don't give any indication of the game beyond the raw numbers. Ade missed a lot of tackles - but why? Walkers tackling stats were fantastic - but why? the only way stats can be genuinely used is in context with the real game. Warrington's outside backs are very quick and on at least 3 occasions was forced into making a snap decision due to an overlap. Walkers stats were so good because after the first 20 mins, the Wire pack picked up the pace and our central defenders had to do a lot of tackling. With 15 mins to go Wire had used 3 less interchanges and our pack was starting to tire.
My judgement on the stats are that Ade wasn't quite as bad as the stats suggest ( only one try down his side )., and Walkers performance was even more extraordinary given that he also bettered Roby's tackling stats.
Stats don't always tell the truth.
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| The best thing that came out of the game that the stats don't cover was our ability to close out the game. This was down to good defence, kicking, discipline and good mistake free rugby in attack. Given how we have lost some big leads over the last few years it is good to see we were able to play in the correct way for this situation.
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