I’d like to think that Agar looks at putting the boot in on a few experienced players and gives a shot to a few others.

Walker
Fusitua Newman Briscoe Handley
Austin Sinfield/Sezer
Oledzki Leeming Prior
Gannon Martin
Tetevano

Dwyer Thompson Donaldson Smith/O’Connor/Sutcliffe

Tindall.

Bentley, Mellor, Myler, Holroyd, Walters, Mustapha out.

Will Leeming be fit? He didn't come back on and was limping after the game

Jack Sinfield is nowhere near ready to play 1st team. Any suggestion to pick him is just ridiculous. It would do far more harm than good. He needs time in the reserves and academy to learn his trade.

Sezer needs to improve but hes an experienced player who missed most of last season and needs time to get back to his best form. He needs better options around him and he needs far more effort from his teammates and coaches.

I cant remember the last time i saw a Leeds forwars offload the ball. Our whole attack is looking awful not just Sezer.

We have a lot of work to do. That tonight was nowhere near acceptable.

100% agree with all of the above. Easy to blame Sezer in the same way that it was all Gale fault last year! Our pack is seriously lacking energy and Tetevano excepted not hitting the line hard resulting in a slow play the ball which is compounded by poor distribution from acting half (awful in Dwyer case).Add in that we are not off loading so getting no broken field play and play it becomes very difficult for your playmaker to move the team around the pitch. It is a concern that our attacking structure does not appear to be clickiing and that is a fair challenge against the coaching team. Because we are not punching holes up front our attack is slow and lateral and easy to defend against. Add in that our fullback which is the key position attacking wise is struggling to influenxe our attacking pattern in the way Myler has done previously. Briscoe in the centre does not work as he either puts the head down and drives back into the forwards or closes down the space for his winger and stops the attack. These issues will only be fixed on the training pitch and with better selection and luck with injuries. Throwing in the likes of Sinfield now will only harm the development of the player. It would have a bigger impact on the attack to put Johnson in at hooker and and potentially move Austin to Full Back however I would give Walker a xouple more games to try and have more influence on games.

Putting the boot in to some senior players would include briscoe Dwyer and Thompson on last nights showing. Watching Dwyer chuck the ball behind the first receivers ear everytime in good ball is infuriating. We need a prop on the bench, Tetevano goes there and saying here you go Sinfield sort that lot out, is not the answer. Let johnson have a go at 9 to see if he can help 6 and 7 sort their game out

All Sezer need is consistent Ball from Hooker. Just flipping so your simple job of passing to him nearly every play from 3rd tackle onward at first receiver. The amount of times Dwyer and even Leeming scoot and throw a rubbish pass is beyond a joke. I’d rather see Johnson play, literally just to provide steady and consistent ball to our two best players. It really is that simple. You’ll see a completely different Sezer, and Austin too.

The forwards will win or lose the game and the backs and halves will decide by how much. My worry is we are sadly lacking in the front row, and lose any modicum of momentum when Dwyer comes on throwing passes behind people.

There simply has to be change in the pack.

Yes totally agree, the halves need a bit of time in s new team together, asking a teenager to come into a team down on confidence is just madness

The only spine change I would make is Broadbent to fullback. I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see Walker making it as a top SL fullback. He's not skillfull, fast or strong. He has a lot of heart, but hard to see what else he brings to the table.

He’s had 2 years out of the game and wasn’t expecting to be first choice, and he’s still only young. He is skilful but it’s obviously going to take some time especially with a whole new dpine which he has never played with.

Scapegoating Walker is not what we need. Give Sezer and Austin the ball in that second half and we win that game. Hookers all try and be a young Roby, or Daz Clarke but are nowhere near that level. We need an old fashioned 9 who can pass to Sezer consistently on attack. That’s all we flipping need…

Weve got one in Johnson IMO.

I hope he gets some game time this year as he looks all class, but he’ll probably come in for a few games not set the world alite and people will want him dropped

Get him in now! But give him at least 3 month run. We can’t move forwards with Leeming /Dwyer combo

Agree with the views here that this is not about 1 or 2 players. Last night for mine only young Tindall ran the ball in hard and fast which late on resulted in the Pearce high tackle, yellow card.
Virtually all game their defensive line ran harder at us than the ball carrier did.
We still could not really create anything v 12 men compounded by really dense play like the tip tackle by Smith.

It's not about scapegoating walker, as I don't think he's the reason we lost. I'm more questioning whether he will ever be the reason we will win.

To me, he came through as an exciting ball runner, who had a Sam Tomkins-esque step. I think over the years, through injury or being found out, we've realised he actually has no pace. In fact, for a fullback, he's quite slow... Without the illusive running in his game, there's not much skill to back it up.

Fullback is too important a position to be carrying someone who isn't up to it...

Again it’s 3 games in after a 2 year lay off, I’m sure the plan was to ease him in gradually but obviously that has suffered s blow because of Myler.

We need to win and win by a big comfortable margin to get our season back on track.

Walker
Fusitua Newman Sutcliffe Handley
Austin Sezer
Oledzki Leeming Prior
Gannon Martin
Smith

Tetevano Dwyer Thompson Donaldson

I think we just need a win, comfortable or not

To be fair, we have been poor with the ball, but aside from a portion of the Wigan game we've been pretty solid defensively, and we've played 3 of the strongest teams in the league with a patched up back line and back row. Even with a fully fit squad, we're at least a level below St Helens, so it's too early to write this season off.

It’s a good point to make. Our next 3 games are Wakefield, Hull FC and Salford. If we pick up 3 out of 3 wins from those games as we should do and need to do, things won’t be looking too bad.

After the loss at Wigan we had missed more tackles than any other team I believe. I can’t imagine that changed much after last night. We missed plenty again last night, and some of them were very costly.

wasn't expecting? didn't he demand it

Why does everyone rave on about Smith? The most overrated player at the club.

As for Thompson getting bagged, yep he’s an average Joe and not that’s needed, but he put himself about in defence last night.

Walker
Fusitua
Newman
Broadbent
Handley

Austin
Sezer

Oledzki
Leeming
Tetevano
Gannon
Martin
Prior

Dwyer
Thompson
Smith
Take your pick from the scraps

We will continue to struggle while we have no recognised props on the bench.

Smith has some super skills, but doesn't consistently work hard enough in defence. Its up to him - if he puts the work in he could be a very good player. If not he'll stay about where he is. Maybe a different coach would make a big difference?

As for Walker, its not just about his injuries. His contact in defence is often not good enough and he's never had a passing game. Those are issues he had before his layoff. If the injury has permanently slowed him down then longer-term he'll struggle to be a SL player let alone a star unless he improves in other areas. Even if he gets back to full speed (which isn't lightning) he'll just be an average player.