Would someone please tell me, thank you.

Because he was not doing very well

Short thread this lol

Good thread this

Lost most of the dressing room very quickly. Lost the trust of Sinfield too. A source I know close to some players told me that.

We were bottom of the league and playing like it .not showing any improvement every game ..it was like Dean Lance era revisited

The Dean Lance era that despite a terrible start got us to a cup final in his first dozen games and then went on the club's longest SL era winning run?

I presume that is not a statement that you are making to suggest he was a success

When the whole world is discussing Black Lives Matter up pops Dean Lance of all people.

Hetherington refusing to sack him and saying and i quote "other than being found guilty of racism he came out of the tribunal well" was the worst decision Gary has made at Leeds. I stopped watching til Lance was gone just a few months later.

Nope. I'll admit I'm being a bit contrary but his record is not the worst of Leeds coaches by any means and he was much better than Furner.

Lance was appalling, ask former assistant coach Damien Mcgrath who left at the end of lances first season because he could not work with Lance, we lost a good assistant and possible future head coach there, McGrath was scathing and said the players put the long winning run together after stopping listening to Lance, but all wanted rid of him. The CC was played near the start of the season then, and we got there off the back of the Graham Murray ethos, before Lance’s rot set in.

As for Furner i thought he was the right man for the job, it was obvious after about 8 games he was a crap coach, and had to go.

I thought Lance did a Sterling job....

“Those boys don’t play RL they play basketball”

I really did expect better from Furner, I was looking forward to him coming .Then when it started going badly I started to question the judgement of the management.

So hopefully you questioned your own judgement as well

What happened to Damien since he left ?

He was at huddersfield for while, but he's been in RU for a few years now.

7s coach, travelling the world. Last i heard he was coaching the German 7s team but he coached Samoa 7s for a time also.

It was Damian who came up with the moving Iestyn from 1 to 6 and bringing St Hilaire on for last 25 mins. It worked out ok.

Eh up Taff, grand to hear tha’s come out thee coma.

Oh yes I'm only a spectator after all

Thanks for most of the comments. Was reading an article by a secret RU player, he said that when even most, if not all, of the long serving RU players hear a new NZ or Aussie accent they sit up a little, and have that bit of fear of him for a while; I don't think that is the case in RL, in fact I think what's in most RL players' un-concious now when they hear an Aussie accent come and coach over here is, 'oh, another Aussie reject trying to get a few quid out of RL.'

In any case I've always liked the way R Agar has come accross in the media, obviously I don't know him personally, I would say that he speaks like a proper coach. I don't think Agar is the right personality to manage England, S Wane is almost perfect for that IMO.

I don't think the players even notice an accent in that regard. In fact Furner came over with credit in the bank as he has been in the Headingly dressing room as a player and aquitted himself to a very good standard. Although I don't know as I'm not in the dressing room I honestly don't think that was a factor

When he was HC at Canberra, I read he used to get the players in the ring with him, to actually have a proper boxing match. I doubt if Bennett, Bellamy or Maguire have done that in their coaching careers.

Anyway, it seems that players nowadays want an intelligent head coach, Tommy Raudonikis and George Piggins wouldn't get a head coach role in the NRL today I don't think, I mean if they were 40 years younger, granted they would almost certainly be different people if they were born quite a few years later.

Furner is a great assistant but he will never be a successful head coach. The best coaches/leaders are great man managers convincing people to implement a strategy that is probably prepared by assistants. It is the HC role to choose the best strategy and get the troops to buy in. Furner is great at the strategy, terrible at the rest