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| So Sir kev whilst looking like a kid in a man's job ducking and diving Carney's questions revealed that before he came back the club was rotten. So who let it get that way and why? Thoughts
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| Interesting way to describe your boss’s work...
Looks like Agar is here for a while.
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| It was a car crash of an interview. Kev tried, and failed, to be confrontational. He avoided the questions, looked sheepish, and had no reasoned or rational answers.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Interesting way to describe your boss’s work...
Looks like Agar is here for a while.'"
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| I'm not sure which was more embarrassing and amateurish...Sinfields interview pre-match or the teams efforts during the game itself?
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| Tonight was the acid test, we’ve played a badly misfiring Cas team and been rinsed. If they have been in form we’d have been on the back of another cricket score.
We looked game for sporadic times tonight, hell, even semi competent, but there’s 0 confidence once the poop hits the fan in this team, 0 and even that’s generous.
Players walking into tackles, players stood still while receiving the ball, still crap tackling technique and the ubiquitous try from dummy half 5 yards out.
It’s time to bite the bullet and make some calls and I genuinely believe that the current overstocked management set up is too scared to make.
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| Embarrassing and worrying from Sinfield. To describe the club as that publicly shows he’s either out of his depth or too arrogant/egotistical for the role at the moment.
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| Or honest?
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| What I can't get my head around is why sack Furner then not look to make a reasonably swift appointment. They should have had a couple of coaches in mind surely.... yes they have to get right man but surely they have to have had a plan.
Phil Clarke has heard the culture I'd wrotten... where has that come from? And why?..
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Or honest?'"
This, the interview was an honest one IMO
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| Quote ="Him"Embarrassing and worrying from Sinfield. To describe the club as that publicly shows he’s either out of his depth or too arrogant/egotistical for the role at the moment.'"
What do you want him to say, everything’s OK?
He’s only said what most people on here have said about the club for the last few years yet when he says it he’s being arrogant, weve been a bottom 4 club for 3 out of the last 4 season, theres obviously something deep rooted as he’s says
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| Its odd though isn't it. Whilst there's a lot of talk about backroom staff etc, in the end there's a squad of 20+ players and some coaches, fitness/medical people and that is the core of the side. That's a very self-contained unit, and I find it very hard to believe that a decent set of management couldn't sort out some of the crud fairly quickly.
Post the London game, I'd focus first and foremost of getting rid of any rotten eggs in the squad from a morale perspective. We aren't playing like a team and look like a bunch of individuals most of whom don't care if we win or lose. Any serial whingers or troublemakers need to be got away from Headingley and never let back, regardless of the cap or other issues. Whilst we have rumours about who these may be, I'd bet big money that pretty much everyone closely involved with the squad knows exactly who they are.
My only question is whether GH should push Sinfield aside for a while and retake the reins. Sinfield has zero experience, which would be OK if we were going well, but its virtually unheard of for such a tyro to be able to cope with the man-management disaster we're currently in. Even if not announced publicly, I get the impression that Sinfield may have become as much part of the problem as we hoped he'd be the solution.
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| Yep need to get rid of the bad eggs asap.
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| Just seen sinfield interview. Wow. Full of contradictions. Told all new coach applicants that the club is fully behind agar for now. Wow. Relegation here we come if that's the strategy. Sinfield looks lost
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| I wonder if it's not just a new coach that's needed ,maybe new ownership too ?
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| Didn't see Sinfield's interview but if the club's rotten, where are the big and essential decisions that such a scenario would require? Other than sacking Furner and making the odd decent signing with plenty more questionable ones he appears to have done nowt to put matters right. If it was rotten when he took up the reins then I see no reason why it wouldn't still be now.
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| I'm gobsmacked really. He says we need stability so why sack Furner and not get a move on with replacing him with a top class coach?!!? If he thinks agar can turn it round hes sadly mistaken and is doomed for failure
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| Quote ="Trebor1"I'm gobsmacked really. He says we need stability so why sack Furner and not get a move on with replacing him with a top class coach?!!? If he thinks agar can turn it round hes sadly mistaken and is doomed for failure'"
The rumours will come out soon about Furners sacking .It seems strange to me that a coach uprooting a d travelling with his family halfway round the world expecting to be here for 3 years and gets the sack after 14 games for not immediately getting results out of a team that has been poor long before he came . The Rotten that the DOR refers to did he expect Furner to rectify it after 14 games ?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"The rumours will come out soon about Furners sacking .It seems strange to me that a coach uprooting a d travelling with his family halfway round the world expecting to be here for 3 years and gets the sack after 14 games for not immediately getting results out of a team that has been poor long before he came . The Rotten that the DOR refers to did he expect Furner to rectify it after 14 games ?'"
Utterly bizarre it really is. Totally contradictory
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| From what I hear Furner’s position was no longer tenable. Think Brian Clough and you’re not far off. Put too many noses out of joint.
It’s quite clear to me what the problem is. The success since 2004 was built on a generation of players that hasn’t been replaced. Many of them were leaders. Now they’ve all gone. The players left are the bit part players who enjoyed success off the back of those greats that have gone. They’re not capable of doing what the likes of Sinfield, Peacock, McGuire etc did. You have a player as captain who really shouldn’t be expected to carry the team and recover from a serious injury but there are no other obvious leaders.
You’ve blown salary cap on players that are either injury prone (Hurrell), mediocre (Merrin) or just plain poor (Lolohea).
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| Got to be honest, I took a different view of that interview. I don’t think Sinfield wanted rid of Furner, and this has come from above him. It sounded like he didn’t want to work this way himself. Infact, I think his responses showed a lot of maturity, in biting his tongue.
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| Quote ="christopher"This, the interview was an honest one IMO'"
Agree it was honest but also highlighted how far out of his depth he is.
Absolutely shocking to tell job applicants the Club are 100% behind Agar when we need a Quality Coach and his own Staff asap.
It's ok saying it was Rotten when he arrived but adding to the Disease isn't helping either he needs to up his game or go.
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| Sinfield was as honest has he could be.Make no mistake GH is still in charge and knows things have been going rapidly downhill since 2016.
He feeds a fall guy and we know who it is !!
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Agree it was honest but also highlighted how far out of his depth he is.
Absolutely shocking to tell job applicants the Club are 100% behind Agar when we need a Quality Coach and his own Staff asap.
It's ok saying it was Rotten when he arrived but adding to the Disease isn't helping either he needs to up his game or go.'"
Again what do you expect him to say, ‘we don’t think Agar can do the job so we need someone ASAP’ that would be a ridiculous message to Agar who wether we quickly get a coach or not will be coaching them fir a bit.
Do you really think the only communication he has had with job applicants is through a pre match interview on sky?
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| I would love to know how your salary cap is spread between your squad of players. I thought during the very first game of the season that your squad felt somewhat imbalanced and I still think that now.
There were rumours at one stage that players were unhappy with the disparity in salaries - could that be the cause of some of the attitude problems we're seeing at the minute?
Tui seems to be copping the most flak from the supporters but Merrin has been a letdown for me and he had another poor game again last night. Conceding penalties for dissent is criminal but to come from a player of his stature, someone who should be guiding the youngsters, is really disappointing.
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