Well I don’t know what to say about tonight’s performance but a few people need to drop out after that.

Hmm. Watkins looked like he took a knock, I’m hoping it’s not the knee again. See if he pulls through but there’s an argument to give him a week off anyway.

Sutcliffe should make way in the second row for this one I think.

Maybe a JJB or Ablett defending on the RHS, or Donaldson, might help shore things up a bit.

Injuries will probably dictate as much as form. Other sides are going to keep battering our right hand side until we can prove it’s solid though, so we’re going to have to do something.

I really hope we swing the axe a bit next week and show those performances are not acceptable, i think bext werk is our best chance for a win out of our next 3 against an inconsistent Hull side, if we lose this i fear for where our next win is coming from, we could be out if contention by end of march, teally need to win our next 3-4 games.

I'd bring in Mclelland and Trout. Possibly Muiz too.

We won't see many changes. Walker will come back in, but I think that'll be it.

You don’t think we’ll beat London at home?

I'd like to see one of the underperforming defenders / right edge dropped for this, but not sure if we have the players to come in.

Donaldson is surely above Sutcliffe in the pecking order now? I think we saw why Cameron Smith isn't being selected on a more regular basis, but at least he seems to offer more with ball in hand than Sutcliffe.

If we could bring in a fit Crosby and Ablett that could make a big difference, even JJB (dare I say it), but I suspect they are all still too far off match fitness. A miraculous recovery from Ward would also go down well. Are we going to sign Wellington Albert? Grasping at straws I know. Furner has a hell of a week ahead of him.

Inconsistent?

LLLLLLLLLLLLLW.

Ablett was 18th man last night so expect him back in the 17 next week

Yes, for me the choice is either Cam Smith or Sutcliffe, and I just feel Smith offers more. He does need to sort his D out though, or else he’ll be another one who doesn’t make it. I like him going forward but he looks weak in defence.

We’re losing shape on the right which begins with the second rower for me; get someone really solid in there and it should have a knock-on effect. And then if individuals are missing 1 on 1 tackles repeatedly they get dropped. I think we’re getting caught out laterally as much as anything.

I din’t think wholesale changes are what’s needed; evolution through the course of the season should see us better as we go on. There is a danger our wheels could fall off again, let’s be honest. Wakey was a big result.

We’re going to have to be patient. What I will say is that although I know fans are naturally disappointed with results, I honestly don’t believe any of the team are giving less than 100%, and we should support that. If they’re not trying, they deserve criticism. Otherwise they deserve loyal support.

Powder puff soft defence like last night, poor handling and respect for possesion, would not beat a top championship side if we pkay like that again, i really hope that was just a blip on an upward trajectory .

Anyone think Merrin will get called up for questioning the integrity of the referee when he got sin binned?

I wasnt aware he did? Thought he was protesting a (lack of) decision by the ref?

But he carried on doing it and must of said something on toward to be giving a penalty away and a yellow card.

Furner needs to have a strong word whether he gets called up or not. Merrin questions the referee too often. It doesn't set a good example to the younger players and is not the leadership qualities we were hoping for from him

Beat me to it.

We aspire to be inconsistent.

No, although his reaction was wrong, that tackle/holding down situation was farcical. The inconsistency with regard to the ruck is shambolic. If that incident makes the news in Oz it’ll be even harder attracting players

No he should be fine
But he needs to buy a better lipstick though!.
The one he had on on Friday night had all run down the side of his mouth as he walked off in a huff!

Depends entirely what he’s said.

Dissent and questioning the integrity of the ref are 2 very different things.

Plus, not that it makes it right, but I’d probably agree with the general tone of what he said to Hicks!

Most likely not, I think he'd have drawn a red if what he said was that bad. He'd do well to remedy some of his own shortcomings before criticising others though.

Smith, Golding and Newman all played for Fev today. Newman scored 2, Smith scored 1.

Widnes gave Fev too much to do in the 2nd half, and were too strong over the 80 minutes.

Think that would have been Daniel Smith, Cameron wouldn't have played 2 games in 3 days.

Newman, Golding and L Briscoe were the only Leeds players involved in the game today for Featherstone. Widnes won 44-22.

They aren’t the easy beats many people were expecting, they’ve just won against Wigan.

I won’t say the Hull game is a must win game, with all the snowflakes crying when I said Wakefield was must win, those fans must still think we can win the league leaders shield.

Shit, ter and test. How anybody can rate Golding is beyond me...maybe he could make it as a plodding hooker, but he is painfully slow, never makes a break and can't pass (people suggesting he could play on the wing bonkers..would have been worse than that Aussie who paid his own flight & who McDermott persisted with for about 10 games before the final straw in crabbing across his own goal line against Hull and got tackled behind the line...forget his name) ...Sutcliffe should have been moved on last season at least....he'll never make a second rower ..can't bust a tackle; no grunt. Usless....and Myler wtf? He is hopeless ...no kicking game at all.....bring back Mags. Leeds really do have some issues. We all recognise we need some big props, but Ferres has done bugger all since he signed and Ward is already sadly done (I blame McDermott for using his willing heart of a lion to make him a wholly unsuitable battering ram). It is a sad state of affairs that I believe our better second row pairing is still JJB and Ablett. Merrin has to be used at LF. Singleton might be better tried in second row as he is fast enough and able to do more damage out there than up the middle. As for the backs Watkins might have gone same way as Mags...lost that edge in pace. He's probably better at FB these days although I liked Lolohea for his cut out passes not seen the Webb days. I'd like to see Walker tried at SO alongside McLelland .. a pairing that cannot be worse that we have at the moment.

Team for Hull

Watkns, T.Briscoe, Hurrel, Handley (Newman), L.Briscoe (Handley), Walker, McLelland

Peteru, Parcel/Dwyer, Oledski, Singleton. Ablett, Merrin

Subs: Lolohea, Cuthbertson, Donaldson, Trout