THE SLEEVE HAS DELIVERED SUCCESS AND NONE OF YOU POST ABOUT IT!!!!!

Well done to Lois and the ladies team for their Challenge Cup win on Saturday.

Still think there's plenty to be positive about Gary?







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Meanwhile back on planet earth.

THE SLEEVE HAS DELIVERED CHALLENGE CUP SUCCESS

Some of us remember the dark days, and we also know these things come in cycles even for the biggest clubs. saints have done very little for 10 ten years but are on the up again, it took wigan fans many years to accept they had no divine right to dominate and win trophy's ever year, there was a whole generation of fans off wigan that grew up with unprecedented success that new only that, and then could not get used to not being the top dog. its the same for us now, there is a whole generation of fans who have known nothing but success and simply don't understand the cycle nature of RL or any team sport just look at Liverpool dominance at soccer then Man U. trust me if some of the people watched highly expensive sides in the 80's & 90's flop badly and have the opposition fans shouting what a wast of money they would understand this is a blip in GH copybook, he gets considerably more right than wrong. We may have a few more years of mediocrity and no trophies before we rebuild a side again. Recruitment as been poor but i don't think the club deliberately signed players that they expected to not perform, and some of the juniors over the last 3-4 years have not proved to be the required standard. its pretty painful at the moment but i think we will be better next year and hopefully pushing for trophies again in 2020. but hopefully next year we will be at least competitive for top 6 again.

Winter is coming!

For many years youngsters in key positions were never really going to get a chance with us due to the golden generation being in place. There is now no reason why any youngster with anything about them can't see a path to first team rugby. The word is we have some very good junior sides coming up so hopefully a few can grab the chance.

yes we have but transition is not always smooth most are 2-3 years away yet, still don't think it would take a really good coach and 4-5 new bodies to get us something back like a top 5-6 side next year

I think the game has changed since the early 2000s when the golden generation came through. Not many U19s walk straight into the first team now.

I think the best you can expect is a couple of solid first teamers a year at most.

Hope lies in the fact the competition at the top is not as strong as it was between 2002-2012 and you don't have to have a team full of internationals to compete for silverware so getting back amongst it may only take a new coach and few shrewd signings, we will see.

I will never knock Hetherington for what he has done for Leeds. As a youngster I used to dream of the success he has delivered.

On the subject of the women's team I'm fed up of hearing about them. Every tweet club puts out is about them. There was more build up by club on their final than on cup semi. It seems club is more bothered about them than men's team.

Got back on coach after the game yesterday and steward said "just to let you know next women's fixture is against Wigan" I could have wept!!!

I know what I'm saying is wrong but I don't care about women's team, I'm fed up of hearing about them.

There.....said it......rant over.

At least we will have one super league team next year , maybe they will play at headingley