Well the Huddersfield game on Friday ranks as one of the worst I have ever witnessed and all the talk around where I sit is that people will not be renewing season tickets next year.
My view is that we need a change at the top people with fresh ideas and people with vision.
For the good of the club change is needed now

No you're not allowed to say that everything is ok and you can't criticise question or even think like that or you're not a real "FAN".

Oh dear I forgot the Forum mafia rules. Only positive things can be said I fully expect to get a whole host of critercism from the regulars stating they are right and obviously I am wrong

Give over this forum is the most negative forum going, theres far more negative posting than positives.

As for Fridays game being the worst ever, give over theres been plenty worse over the last few years

when did we last play well against a top side? this year's been awful but go ahead and make excuses

the win at saints? Not that long ago

No just 3 months

Everything just seems so tired and stale around the club, yes I know we have had a decade of success but time for Mcdermott and Eaton to move on and for GH to get some money spent on a new forward pack

This year has been pretty dire but yiu simply cannot just firget about the amount of injuries and how that has affected us. We haven’t had a proper forward pack sll year

I agree that injuries are key and can't be ignored, but even if we had a full first 19 to go from each week we still need more quality through the team, for this year as well as going forward. I'm a fan of McD, and no one can deny the trophies and success he's helped the club achieve, but it just seems like there's no real Plan A this year and we would benefit from a shake up.

The fans will be renewing their season tickets, don't worry about that...what with a spanking new stadium, a couple of top players signed up to go with the new kids on the block, what's not to like?! Rhinos fans have been spoilt, why moan about the odd year when the games don't go to our script.

I'll be renewing my ticket for next year but i have no idea where i will be. Hate my seat this year but the ground is undergoing a major redevelopment to take us forward. Our recruitment is a worry but I still have faith in GH, he has been the best thing ever to happen to this club and to demand silverware every year is a bit naive in how a club is run. We have had a fantastic 12 or 13 years with the odd blip. I am going to support through thick and thin like i have done for the last 35 years. I can definitely say i have seen worse seasons than this one and probably will again. As long as i am able i will be going to Headingly and supporting the team I love

I would just like to see something resembling a full team out before condemning them!

you don't need a full team to look ok and compete. how many did cas have out on Friday? 9? they didn't do to badly

How did Cas go in the only important game theyve had this season?

Did Cas lose 3 more players during the game due to injury?

did they end up with 3? no.
did we look competitive in the first half with a full compliment? no.
we looked a shambles. stop looking for excuses.

We were terrible on Friday, but as I say id like to see us with a proper team out before condemning them

fair enough. time will tell i guess

Still so many empty seats. It's gonna be worse when all those new expensive seats are open too. The Carnegie seats will be barely a third full!

But this argument is also stale and has been trotted out for so many years now, only for Brian Mac to make his critics eat their words by his achievements.

No they had 8 out but they had just signed a new pivot who made a big contribution to their win. But you know that already don't you so why say 9?

8/9 does it matter? Still a great result and performance. Could you see us beating wire at the Halliwell jones at this time? Not a chance for me, and i'd be happy if we didn't get humped by 30 plus.

I know I don't see all the Rhino's games but it does seem as if its mostly the young players that try to gee the team up when its going wrong (which has been most of the time of late) I noticed Goulding, Ward, and even young Cam Smith tryingto urge the team on while the senior players seem resigned to their fate.

Almost the only difference between this year and 2016 is that we got a few wins early. Otherwise its the same - injuries, hopeless play, more injuries, hopeless performance, keep picking injured players, rinse and repeat.

BM did a great job last year and 2015. But he was as poor as the team in 2016, and this year looks like a carbon copy. The ONE thing he admitted to doing wrong in 2016 was picking injured players and then seeing them both play badly and get injured again, and yet he's doing exactly the same this year.

My problem is we look a mess on the field. A boring, slow mess. Forget 'unstructured', we look like half the time we've no idea who's supposed to be doing what. Just like 2016.

Some of our senior players need to take a long hard look at themselves as well. I remember in 2003-ish tvoc bagged Francis Cummins, saying he was 'stealing a living', which I remember thinking was a bit harsh. IMO that charge could and perhaps should be levelled at some of our more experienced players.

The 33 years old full back who has never played SL before? Second choice at Toronto? Leeds could have had him, you are missing a 'pivot'.
McDermott is not going anywhere; I think he has great strengths as a manager, but you need a world class, experienced, half back (sorry, pivot) who can actually coach structured & attacking rugby. You currently resemble a team coached by a plodding prop forward.