Was it really? From a Leeds point of view, I thought we were outstanding, and squeezed the life out of Cas. However, I've been reading some quite bizarre posts on social media, that go as far as 'Leeds shouldn't have even been there' and 'Cas v Hull would have been a cracker'. I'll put it down to fans of other clubs just gutted that they weren't participating then?

It wasn't a great game due to the handling errors. Somehow, I think the people saying this would have a different view had the game been of the same quality but with a cas win.

From some of the posts I read on other boards about the final beforehand, I think other fans are getting a bit sick of us winning it all the time.

Tough! We had our fun, and that's all that matters.

For a neutral, I'm sure it was not the most thrilling of games. For those of the orange and black persuasion, well let's just say it didn't go with their script. But as a Leeds supporter, I thought it was a cracking game. We took it to the favourites from minute one and they had no answer. If I was a Cas fan I'd feel let down in the final but proud of the season their team had and there will always be ifs and buts. But for the next 12 months we are the Champions of the Super League.

That's the joy of winning the Grand Final. There's no next week. No possible defeat looming to spoil the mood. We're Champions. Again.

Was it balls. Far too much is being made of the amount of errors without taking into account just how much it rained (I don’t think it came across on tv), the fact you have 2 teams who like to use the ball (Cas like to pass, we like to offload either out of the tackle or just when we’ve got our noses through the line) and the ball which both coaches have complained about.

A decent proportion of Cas’ errors were due to Leeds outstanding performance

It probably was one of the poorest from a neutral view. Tries were mostly scrappy and a ton of knock ons. Just thinking of other GF's, last years wasn't anything special and 2014 post Flower send off wasn't much.

Thought it was arguably the best atmosphere-wise in the Leeds end even before kick off and continued on into the first half, perhaps the nothing to lose attitude was taking over compared to much tenser finals of previous years.

Funny that people say Leeds shouldn't have been there. Cas only made it because Mark Percival couldn't kick. Worst? No. We did a job on them. A proper cup tie. 42 grand final rings to nil. The experience showed.

It is funny that people say we shouldn't have been there, we finished 2nd so surely we should've been one of the two teams there? Yeah when we finished 5th i get the gripes but not this year (yes Hull were great in the cup but their league form left something to be desired). For all the talk of how we struggled vs Cas in the league we had a very strong record vs the other near challengers

I think we were 9 from 12 from the other playoff contenders in Hull, Saints, Wigan and Wakey and one of those we put the kids out vs Wigan.

I thought it was great!

The 2009 final was a pretty poor spectacle from memory. In terms of real quality 2004 was very good, 2007 Leeds were very good, 2012 was very entertaining as well. Despite being close I'd say the 2015 final wasn't that good either. Finals are often disappointing from that perspective - the NRL GF may have been better quality but as a spectacle was over before half time.

It was teeming it down all game so was very unlikely to be a classic anyway. Thought we played the conditions similar to some of those nights against the great Saints team and Cas were never able to get close to that level on the night hence the reasonably comfortable win for us.

I can see why it would be an instantly forgetable final for the neutral though.

Some absolute corkers still doing the rounds on Facebook.

Only the weather, Maguires offside try from Moons high kick , Briscoes forward pass try & Mcguire punching the ball out of Edens hands as he was about to score stopped Cas winning .. 1 win against us in 9 games . We look forward to trouncing you again next season a few times especially without your smuggy half back pairing leaving and you haven't replaced them with anyone of note .

Wow

Unfortunately, In the heady days of social media you will always see this kind of warped view look like it’s the more popular as it’s so extreme. People just can’t compute that you are not champions if you DONT win the grand finals (you ain’t “league” champions either btw, your league “leaders”)

ATEOTD Cas naively tried to play dry weather RL in the pouring rain,Period. There was no plan b, they also treated the final as a normal league game and repeatedly spurned easy points from kicks that we would have taken.

Experience beats out naivety, that’s not arrogance, that’s a fact. We had a game plan they couldn’t handle, yes the conditions played a part but we were into them from the off, we rattled them, we harried them, we forced them into mistakes and kept turning the tourniquet till they broke.

Clutching at straws looking for excuses does them no favours after such a fine season, but as I said at the beginning, there are a lot of Cas fans who have begrudgingly given Leeds the kudos for getting the job done.

It teamed it down in 98 and 99 but I don't remember the same level of handling errors. A fair few of the cas errors were also unforced, they really stunk the place out.

I just don't get the criticism aimed at Leeds. Like some have already said, I don't think the result was in doubt after 10 minutes. Stevie Ward said in his post match interview 'listen mate, we could play until next week, and we're not losing that game'. That's not arrogance, just how the players felt, and so it showed. I've never pretended to be a huge fan of Mac, and don't understand a lot of his methods, but I must congratulate the man on his perfect game plan, and his record speaks for itself. Maybe he sees the game in a different light to some of us, but from what I've been told, the players worship him so that'll do for me. Just another great moment from this special club.

Sore losers. Had it not been for Leeds giving up on 79.46 seconds it would have been the first Nil game!

most of its sour grapes. there was a lot of dropped ball. but as stated it was raining for like 20 hours solid. our game plan and more importantly the execution of it was perfection. it was not a great spectacle for neutrals, but for purists and dare i say it. people who have actually played the game, it was a complete performance.

also think as we did not play to the script and we were meant to turn up and roll over, this as irked a few people who lets face it don't like us winning it all the time.

i actually feel for some of the Cas team, the comments from some of their own fans are poor, bottled it, did not perform, did not try, did not want it, they clearly no nothing of the game, don't think any cas players did not try or bottled anything, it was just not their day and they got well beat by a superior side.

You can count the number of great finals on one hand from a neutral perspective, including the Challenge Cup, and going back further than Super League started. Finals are all about grinding it out, rarely about quality. The final is more about the occasion and the atmosphere around it than the spectacle of the players. As a neutral, and more so those watching on TV, yes I can see it might not be appealing, especially when most fans are biased anyway to a favoured team in a final. But the final is about the two teams there, and experiencing the occasion of it, and that is what makes a good final to them. If those neutrals want it to appeal to them, that will only really happen if their team are there, good luck with that.

I agree. With the bad weather, the Hardaker fiasco and seeing the Cas line up i was very confident just before kick off. You could tell very early with the Cas game plan and McGuire being 'on it' that the game was ours for the taking. I don't think Cas lacked bottle, effort or whatever else it was just going to take something special on that night in them circumstances to beat us and with all things mentioned and the wrong game plan to boot it was never going to happen. tbh think Cas did well to keep the score respectable in the end considering the how much better we were at controling the game.

I think Powell is a great coach, but he is still to find the formula for really big games and we keep saying his teams will learn but they don't seem to be even getting close in them really.

The green eyed monster likes to squeal at times.
Look in the record books "2017 BetFred Super League Champions Leeds Rhinos"

Yep. and lets be honest, 99 percent of neutrals wanted Cas and it never looked like they could do it hence, Crap final verdict.

Most of our finals have been pretty good games. Close, tense, skillful. 2015 was one of the most intense games I've seen.
The conditions were awful Saturday and Cas were dreadful. Fact is Leeds didn't have to be that good to beat them. If Cas had turned up that would have helped.

it was still 100 times better than the wigan vs hull cup final from a few years back
that was my wifes first rugby game and god knows how i persuaded her to watch another