I worry that our discipline, or lack of it is eventually going to cost us in tight games.
Yet another sin-binning on Friday that could yet lead to another of our players being banned.
I never used to think of us being a particularly dirty side, opposition fans always have, but recently I've been disappointed in that aspect of our game.
Is it just a coincidence or has it come about due the pressure the team has been under after the Cas debacle?
We all want to see our lads being tough & hard, but not dirty & resorting to the underhand tactics used by some of our opponents.
Fight hard but fight fair.

Wish the mods on here would be a lot more disciplined with the same posters arguing all the time. Over and over.

Wait until later today and this board will be under attack from ALL fans. If the RFL are informed of the extent of Gildarts injury then it could be a long day on here!!!!!
Lets just say he'e fortunate not to be in a wheelchair.

If thats true, then what were wigan doing seeing if he could run it off at the start of the second half?

They didn't have the results of the scan then.

Surely trained professionals should be able to diagnose the potential severity of the injury?

Not condoning Ferres in any way but Wigan were so desperate not to lose a free substitution that they sent him back on.

if someone is potentially lucky not to be in a wheelchair then you don't try to run it off. this stinks of del boy in only fools and horses, after his hand glider flight.

i sincerely hope Gildart gets well soon and I also hope this is not going to develop into a battle of " what about when so and so did this and so and so did that and what about those two GF's " etc Leeds are not North Korea and neither are Leeds

Yes

Regardless of whether we have a wider issue with discipline, I was pretty disgusted by Ferres' foul the other night. Malicious and dangerous in the extreme. I know some fans will rush to excuse it, or argue it's worth a ban of a game or two at most. Without knowing its official grading I reckon that a foul of that nature should have a start point of maybe 8 games. Not gonna go down well but that's my opinion.

Yeah,because this board were responsible for it.

Three months out for Gildart. Let's see what comes of that.

Ferres is up for grade E dangerous contact.

Ferres is just a total nob head.

If Gildart is really out for 3 months I expect Ferres will not be able to fit in a shirt he is going to be out that long!!

Or 2 months. As someone who suffered a similar injury 30 years ago, & still suffers discomfort from it today, I understand the severity of the injury. I don't like Ferres but don't think he meant to injure, just to hurt, if that doesn't sound daft. But he took the risk & should suffer the consequences. 5-6 games for me.

The Roy Keane defence?

Insanity?

bet he is back playing before ferres we all no these medical reports are used to influence the panel.

The cynic in me agrees.

However, you can't defend this indefensible. It's a ban, a very long ban.

No doubts Ferres deserves a ban but i dont think it should be anymore than 4wks saying that Singleton got 6 so i expect BF to get at least the same.

Obviously don't think Ferres meant to injure him, but obviously the aggression was there with the bust up that had just happened with Golding.

The fact is, even without intent to injure, there is a duty of care to players to not put them in that position, as there is with spear tackles etc, and that is where Gildart ended up, and when that happens you are treading a fine line. I don't think he meant to do it, just tackled aggressively and was unable to control it when Gildart kind of backed into the wrong position (not helped by I think it was Delaney coming in 2nd Man and lending weight).

Having said that, I don't think it was as deliberate as Singo's elbow and though Ferres has a worse record, he did get binned. I reckon 5 games is about right.

As an aside, these incidents always seem to bring out the worst in any fans, particularly in the immediate aftermath. The situation is not made any better by the likes of Phil Clarke either.

I doubt it very much. He has fractured three vertebrae.

Agree entirely with that. Gildart seemed to be trying to stay up, gain an extra few metres, Ferres was trying to dominate and it ended badly. I dont think Ferres put him in that position, but he has a duty to prevent him getting in to that position, and if Gildart does get in that position to be careful. He didnt do that. To listen to Phil Clarke tell it, Ferres picked him up off the floor, folded him in to a ball and jumped from a height.

This is a good example though of why i dont think the injury should make a difference. There will be worse offences where nobody is hurt, and nothing offences where players suffer serious injury. Its was lucky that Gildart didnt get more seriously injured, and unlucky he got injured at all.