Come on. The floor is all yours. Losing at home to the biggest joke in Super League.

Did the rlfans spellchecker moderate your subject header?

You can throw your toys all you want stevo there aint no way Mcdermott is getting axed this year.

i would have traded several seasons of nothing for last years events so I'm cool with a bit of re shaping because imo that is all it will take to get things back, the squad is still a good one on the whole.

^ Deluded

That performance had nothing to do with re shaping or transition, is was a shower of sh*t

Either the coach needs to go or some players need to be shown the door. Either way it been long enough now to stop being knee jerk reactions and panicking. But it's time to panic.

Today was the worst I have seen since dean lance was in charge and we waited way to long to get rid of him. Questions need to be asked full stop.

You are deluded.

McDermott won the treble last season.

He's not going to be axed after a poor run of form. No matter how much you beef about it. It's not about being a McDermott f*cker it's about having your head in the real world.

The players won the treble last season, it is a team game. Important players no longer here.

"Dear Leeds Rhinos, whatever you were paying me the last 12 years it obviously wasn't enough"

K. Sinfield.

Not like we knew it was coming



It does appear Sinfield and Peacock were the real coaches/motivators !!!

What puzzles me about Sutcliffe is that he did look like the 'real deal' before his injury. His performance at Saints' ground last season was imperious. Now....

Could be worse....we could be Saints or Giants supporters. What a hopeless SL this season. Pish poor standards

yes we massively lack a creative spark it doesn't take a genius to work that out.we are missing both our halves from last year bound to have an effect.One returns shortly im sure we will see improvement.Im not excusing the direness of the last 2 games by the way, absolutely shocking.

No sorry, but Sutcliffe has never looked the real deal. He had the one good game, which just about every player in rugby league has at least once in their career. Can anyone truthfully say that Sutcliffe has shown anything to suggest he is better than Gaskell was in his first full year at Saints? Then look what happened there, Saints used their head and could see the shortages to his game.

Is he such a bad coach that he was able to win so much because he inherited a great team?
Current results, total lack of structure in defence and attack, absolutely no intensity either side of the ball and no leaders seem to all point in the direction that the coaching is lacking.
It has been a long time since I've seen us (and super league in general) as poor as this.
What is going on behind closed doors at HQ?

Last season is over. McDermott is being found out because Sinfield and Peacock are no longer running the show:
No leaders
No stand off
No clue.

Your head is in the clouds, son. Not the real world

Who cares about the last two games? Who cares about winning trophies? This is the difference between people defending at any cost. Trophies and wins are not behall and end all. Performances and showing some ability are. We don't have that, we are backing wrong players, and the coaches tactics are worse than a junior leagues coach. That is the bottom line been complained about. Our performances all season thus far are unacceptable, not just two games.

Some spoilt children on here used to having things all their own way and only following Leeds through the glory years. FTW youll be up there again, whether its this season or next.

Gonna agree with gotcha regarding sutcliffe don't think he has ever been the real deal. And really struggling to see a spot for him in the team going forward. Simply not good enough.

Not 'spoilt' ...Many expected and were willing to accept a transitional period. Trophies not expected (at least not until and especially when we could see how pish poor the overall standards in SL are this season).

It's the sharp angled decline that is alarming. Rudderless, clueless and devoid of any ideas/structure/bite in defence.

On present performances can't disagree.....but I remember deliberations about how was the better future SO: Sutcliffe or Williams. Sucliffe was playing well up until his injury.

Well if super league is so pish poor now what does that make leeds? You're right about standards though but last season was just as bad made clear by an average leeds side doing the treble and hardaker being the ruddy man of steel

Your the biggest joke oh and where 9th so there teams worse than is



Think leeds fans need to see you dont have the divine right to win everything and everyone how anyone would want rid of a coach who did treble last season ya deluded

I do not think Mac has become a bad coach overnight, however whatever he's doing clearly isn't working. (Players take some responsibility for that too).

I do think coaches only have a certain lifespan where they are effective before they need replacing with a new voice and fresh ideas otherwise a team can plateau.

I think we saw this happen with Bluey, a couple of good years, then we limped through a season and he was quickly replaced with Mac. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened here.

Losing at home to the biggest joke in Super League.'"

ye who laughs last,laughs longest

That's it, you go on and show a bit of class in defeat...

First of all, your spelling and grammar is appalling, secondly what is becoming ever more apparent is that our ‘coach’ may not have had as much influence over his charges as your ‘traditional’ coach usually does.

We have gone from being a Triple winning team to a side that can’t even master the basics of Rugby League in a matter of a few months. The difference being the loss of a couple of key players. NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED!!

What we need is a coach that can actually coach and not a man that turns up to do the post match interviews and give the occasional inspirational speech to his players.