As if the Warriors documentary thing wasn't enough evidence, just have a read of Burgess, Williams and Bowen's comments (Rugby league express) in the aftermath of the grand final. Burgess should be heavily fined for his comments about the NON-knock on from McGuire, before banging on about how he'll be back to win EVERYTHING with Wigan. (Whatever kid.) Bowen proves he didn't get enough sleep on Friday by claiming Wigan will win the next 3 grand finals. Williams talking about himself, and how good Wigan will be next year etc. no mention of Leeds and how brilliant we were at closing the game out.

I think it gives a real insight into the mindset of Wigan. They believe that they are the best team, they believed they were heavy favourites, and should have won, but ultimately didn't put the work in. Totally and utterly classless set of people

I think thats what JP was hinting at yesterday at the homecoming.
Also watching KOL in the referees ear as they went down the tunnel at half time seemed such a negative approach. What do they hope to acheive once decisions are made?

Where can I read the interviews from these 3?

And Farrell going in late on two of our try scorers. They look for excuses instead of asking why O'Loughlin went for two, and gave us a massive lift? Why couldn't they overpower a tired Rhinos team in the last 15? No, it was all down to the McGuire knock on. With this mentality, they will win nothing

Sorry!! Rugby league express

In fairness, If the Wigan club can keep the young players they have right now i see no reason why they won't at least feature heavily for the foreseeable future at least and may be able to create their own dynasty. The likes of Powell,Williams,Gildart,Bateman,Manfredi and others added to an always game and hard working pack under Wane with a sprinkling of class with the return of Sam Tomkins. Problem for them is whether they can retain the services of these lads on a long term basis.Joe Burgess has already jumped ship and I'm sure a few of those other young lads are going to be soon on the radar's of NRL clubs. We will see.

That's why I've always disliked Wigan. They believe they are entitled to win everything every year . Look what that did to them last time around.
Every team has idiots but a lot of Wigan fans are just unable to get out of that mentality and congratulate the other team on just being better that day.

Indeed. Bateman and Manfredi are doing well but Williams is class for his age. Just hope Sutcliffe can return from injury without losing too much of his abilities.

I think most fans could see the turning point was when Wigan took the 2 when they had all the momentum and Leeds looked shot and out on their feet. It was Wigan's for the taking and they blew it with a poor poor decision.Simple as that for me.

Absolutely spot on another try for us then and we win the game ,the knock on is one of them debatable ones that some days go for you and other days they don't it's certainly not why we didn't win

Not talking about the fans. It's the players. Brainwashed by Wane rather than coached by him. He could damage players that have a lot of potential. Wane will cost Wigan trophies

Has anyone got a copy of the actual interviews, I'm curious to read for myself. All the interviews post match I've read from both sides have been very complimentary about each other and rightly so as it was a great final.

Congrats BTW, a fitting end for some greats of the modern era.

Everything i have seen has been complimentary too. I did see Bowen's piece about Wigan winning the next 3 however, but like i say, it is very possible, so i don't see that as being out of turn.

Well I'm off to buy the paper and make my own mind up about it. One thing is for sure, JP thinks the club is disrespectful.

Sean O'Loughlin

[i"But Leeds are a quality side. It's a massive achievement, a phenomenal effort to do the treble. They had a bit of a slump after the Challenge Cup final but they showed what a champion side they are by bouncing back".[/i


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A second "moral victory" in two years must be very hard to take for players and fans alike. We should probably cut them a little slack whilst they vent their frustration on the officials, the streaker or what ever other scapegoats they want to line up. Truth is if the 2 point margin had been the other way, we'd have probably had quite a few on here having a similar rant. The history books will show we saw off 3 of our all time greats with a treble winning season and for me, whether it was on points difference, or the narrowest of margins, that is enough. It has been a great year to be a Rhino and one that we may well have to cherish for a season or two whilst we rebuild and try to replace the legends who have and will depart. Bring it on

To be honest, the disrespect (if, in reality, there is any) doesn't bother me. I don't need Burgess or any other player to tell me how good or how much class this Leeds team has. In any case, it's likely that only some of each player's comments have been quoted. What point would there be in stating the same thing time after time? Given a choice, I'd rather read the part of an interview that isn't full of platitudes.

O'Loughlin, League Express:

[i"What Leeds have achieved this year has been fantastic. They are at the other end of the spectrum to us. We've got quite a young squad but they have a side littered with legends of the game. Kev, JP and Kylie. It's been a pleasure to play with and against some of those blokes and they've been a credit to Leeds and to themselves[/i

Williams and Bowen don't say much that is disrespectful. Bowen simply believes in the youth talent and backs them to win the next three...a little arrogant maybe so. Williams is humble enough to say that he would have laughed at you if you had told him he would be young player of the year and in a GF. Burgess is the one that is disrespectful, whinging about the try without understanding of the rules of Rugby League it seems. Then goes on to say he will be back (After failing in the NRL and missing mummy and daddy I presume) and win everything with Wigan...Wow...When watching the game back I said to the missus that Burgess is actually one the few decent lads Wigan have got...How wrong was I there.

The problem Wigan have isn't producing young players, it's keeping hold of them.

The ones they do produce all seem to be quite keen to get away either to the NRL or to Union.

Contrast with Leeds, who have been able to keep a generation of top players together through a period of enduring success. You're not telling me that at no point were there offers on the table for some of those to move elsewhere.

www.skysports.com/rugby-league/l ... 346/report Interview with Shaun Wane giving full credit to a "Champion side", yep thats some brainwashing job he's doing there, obviously worked on Sean O'Loughlin looking at those quotes. In fact I can't remember one post match interview where he hasn't said how good the opposition are. So in summary why not enjoy your win rather than picking faults in selected comments from disappointed players, 2 of whom won't even be at Wigan next year.

www.skysports.com/rugby-league/l ... 346/report Interview with Shaun Wane giving full credit to a "Champion side", yep thats some brainwashing job he's doing there, obviously worked on Sean O'Loughlin looking at those quotes. In fact I can't remember one post match interview where he hasn't said how good the opposition are. So in summary why not enjoy your win rather than picking faults in selected comments from disappointed players, 2 of whom won't even be at Wigan next year.

That's just directed at the OP BTW, not the majority of the other commenters.

For the next 4 months or so I don't give a flying feck what Wigan fans or players think or so.
Sour grapes, poor sportsmanship, arrogance, chips on shoulders etc...I don't care one iota

They won the same as every other SL club last year...sweet feck all because we've got the lot.
That's enough satisfaction for me

The Sky Sports interview with Brian Carney afterwards, Shaun Wane looked as though he had been crying!

Meh.

I don't really expect players to be gushing with praise for opposition after such a tight close contest. Wigan will be up there for years to come with the players they have. But will they catch the saints old trafford hoodoo bug now they've lost 2 on the trot that they started as favourites for?

Hopefully.