Hopefully that's got everything out of the system in one game. Tonight has been awful. We look like a team of strangers with no structure and no ideas. Lucky to be within 40 points. Hardaker, Hall, Ablett, Peacock and Leuluai have been ok. The rest, shocking

I don't think we've been shocking, we just look tired and not had much luck. If Ablett scores early on instead of knocking on and the ridiculously forward pass for 1 of their tries is spotted then it could have been different.

We've definitely been out-enthused for want of a better word though, and our kicking game was very bad despite very good work from Wire's defence in closing us down.

Nothing has worked or looked like working. We've missed a ridiculous amount of tackles, made a ridiculous amount of errors, conceded a ridiculous amount of penalties etc etc.

We have had some things go against us but the way we've approached chasing the game has been awful. Hopefully we can improve and beat Huddersfield and then the squad rotation and build up to peaking for the semis and final and play offs can begin

Last tackle plays from us have been poor, no kicking game really, look so disorganised in that department. Some of that is good harassing wire defence but still think we need to be better

The better team won tonight.
Take the loss with a pinch of salt, 3 defeats in 15 games is not something to be ashamed of!

As previously said we looked tired and they looked like they wanted it more.

McGuire & Kirke abysmal, Hardaker & Ablett aside, the rest not much better.

First half was appalling, the sort of Brian Mc regular season game we though we'd seen the last of. Only Hardaker and Leuluai come out of it with credit and Kylie played pretty short minutes. JP for once looked his age and more. Am sure his numbers will look ridiculous but first half in particular he was as ineffective as I've seen him. Wire played well and could have won by a lot more.

Warrington played like their lives depended on it, they've not shown as much vigour, desire or agression all season.

It's not that leeds were bad they were just blown off the park by an immense warrington team, and once warrington got on top early on leeds could never get any control on the game and were fighting a losing battle against a rampant warrington.

I could tell after 10 minutes leeds were going to lose, because they were falling off tackles and warrington were getting quick play the balls, they just had no control over the situation. After the first few minutes the way warrington were winning small battles and creating chinks in the defence it was only a matter of time before they took the lead and once they did there was never going to be anyway back for leeds.

The pack is old and f*cking knackered. I've said it all season and people doggedly argue and twist things, knitting fog with average age figures and going on about how good peacock is.

The bottom line is Leeds rely mainly and leuluai and peacock as forwards to get them up the field. They are both 36 and do big minutes. The bench is far far too lightweight, no one adds any grunt off the bench and the backrowers are mainly wide runners. When it comes to the playoffs they'll be shown up like they were tonight and against wigan.

Pretty sure they said he made 50+ Tackles. Said kirke made 3. Agree with Barry macs interview soft in the forwards.

We've been very poor tonight and Wire have been at probably their best showing for the whole year.

Two years ago that would be a 40+ drubbing! tonight we lost by 18. So whilst disappointed tonight, not at all down looking forward.

You can see how Wire celebrated Atkins try saving tackle on Briscoe near the end, the 3 teams who have beat us have had to put on massive displays and big efforts......in regular season games. Simply a case of Wire hitting form and us hitting a lull....nothing to worry about long term, although I reckon a few posts on SouthStander tonight will go rediciously knee jerky.

30 + even!!!

Said Kirke 31 TBF.

Yep missed a number of see above

We rely on out starting props to get us forward? F**k I hope no other team try to do that otherwise they're doomed.

Singleton was on the bench and isn't "lightweight" but like most others tonight wasn't at the races. Stevie Ward, probably fine once he can physically grow and Sutcliffe looked dangerous at times. Kirke was poor but playing Mulhern/Baldwinson would've hardly changed things.

Peacock gets a pass for me. He still ran his blood to water and was still more effective than Kirke or Singleton despite not being as good as usual. Singleton, Ward, Clarkson all looked average tonight when all 3 had impressed last week. Shows the difference between playing against poor sides and good sides playing at a high intensity.

Robbie Ward also showed he isn't ready yet. I'd start him against Leigh but would be looking at other options against Hudds and their big pack the week after

We have been poor for the last 4 games now and loosing to a weakened wigan and saints team and being lucky to get a point at Huddersfield and well beaten tonight is a concern ! We badly need burrow and aiton back to speed things up and without putting blame on players kirke and clarkson should be no where near the 17 !

Thought Achurch looked to be making some good yardage running wide till he got injured

Was impressed with McDermotts comments after. He wasn't happy and rightly so. No excuses for some players, and he wasn't mincing his words.

Some posters are afraid of putting inexperienced players in, making all sorts of excuses. A very good Leeds side have been completely outplayed in two of last three matches by teams with a lot of young and inexperienced players in them.

Youth will always beat age for enthusiasm. That is a vital ingredient in any winning team.

TBF to Robbie Ward what other options are they? Would putting Clarkson there again make any difference?

When your ball carriers are being dominated then any hooker will suffer.

It was pretty bad wasn't it? Completely dominated in the forwards and our attack never had any fluency to it. Losing Achurch was a big blow I thought. When he was on he was finding his front regularly with the ball, something we struggled to do all night. Kirke offered close to nothing in attack, and Clarkson and S. Ward struggled to gain any sort of foothold. Must have been a nightmare for R. Ward to try keep up with the pace wire's pack were playing at in the opening 30 or so.

Achurch did ok-worrying if he's out for long. We missed Delaney through the middle and anyone who can't see what he brings to the table must have seen what was missing tonight. I thought that was a great chance for clarkson after playing well last week and defending well at hooker. He blew it though.

We haven't been poor for 4 weeks. We played ok at Cas and against hull both in poor conditions

Ward did absolutely nothing wrong. Also Stevie Ward and Clarkson at least showed the right attitude. It was the players we rely on so much that let is down tonight, well along with the usual suspects.

You've missed the point. Teams like wigan have a nice spread of go forward from a number of forwards, all of whom are at a nice age, very fresh and they spread the workload very well, no one or 2 forwards are significantly relied upon and all are above average at most aspects of the position without being stars.

The first Wire try was from a clear forward pass, that said they wanted it more, had more zip at the play the ball, broke our line on numerous occasions and fully deserved their win. At times we seemed devoid of ideas and looked like it was the first time we'd played together. Quite a few of our players didn't turn up tonight, but tomorrow's another day and you always get games like this each season, the Sky Muppets commentary would suggest we're on the decline but when all said and done we're a point off the top, five in front of the Wire and have a CC quarter final to look forward to which Saints would probably swop their current position for.
Well done Wire the best team won tonight

Not interested in anybody who goes on about questioning "attitude" or "effort". If that team lacked effort and attitude we'd have had 40+ past us. The rare pleasing thing tonight was the scramble in defence even towards the end when the result was gone.

Are some good enough? Possibly not, the usual suspects like Kirke and McGuire will be pointed out on here, but the likes of forum favourites like Watkins and Singleton weren't up to much either tonight but I doubt you'll hear too much thrown their way.