There's an oddity that I've often wondered about but never seen until last night. Hull were camped on the giants line and a high cross field kick on the last was put in into the giants in goal area from around the 10m line. The hull player caught it on the full in goal and touched down for the try. But the oddity is that when the ball was kicked into the in goal area, during its flight it looked to pass between the posts (and over the cross bar) so technically it was actually an (unintended) drop goal. They showed it from several different angles on the replays and it looked to me each time that that was the case but the commentators never mentioned it.

Question is, if it's not intended to be a drop goal then does it not count as one? Or does the fact that it was caught on the full and touched down "override" the drop goal? Or was it just a case of none of the officials spotted that the ball had taken that path during its flight?

Was it actually do kicked, or was it punted? It's usually punted on the 5th.

It wasn't intended to be a drop goal - it was kind of a chip over into the in goal area at an angle with the intention of scoring the try but definitely looked like it went between the sticks and over the crossbar on its way. It was caught on the full and touched down by the hull player. Does the try override the drop goal? Does it not count as a drop goal if that wasn't the intention and it just happened to go between the sticks? Or am I talking complete rubbish?

The ball has to bounce before kicking for it to be a drop goal, had it bounced it would have stood as a drop goal, but it didn't the ball was kicked directly from the hands.

If you are needing clarification on any aspects of the rules regarding drop-goals then I would suggest you sneak over and look on the Hudds site .Keep it stealthy though

Ah! Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

Was I the only one disappointed that Ull didn't go for as drop just for a laugh last night ?

I was hoping they would too.

Nothing to do with me.

Imagine if it had been awarded Brough would have gone apesh*t

Rubbish

must say i had always wondered about that seeing a lot of kicks going close to going over, didn't know about the ball having to touch the floor first for it to be classed as a drop goal

Quite. He said "thanks for the clarification". Not "thanks for muddying the waters".

If the ball must bounce for it to be considered as a drop goal, wouldn't that be a knock on?

I seem to remember McGuire a few years ago having a drop goal crossed off for that very reason.

No, otherwise every drop goal would be given as a knock on. In RL intention is everything, if you drop the ball with intention of performing a drop kick then it's play on, if you drop the ball while intending to retain possession then it's a knock on.
That's why it's not a knock-on when players allow the ball to hit their body from a kick off for instance.

Wasn't that the try at Wigan where he knocked on then kicked it?

I'm going to come right out and say this: how is it possible to watch rugby of either code for any length of time and not know this?

I've never heard it mentioned, I've never heard anyone talk about it, I've never read the rule book end to end.

Take your pick. If I didn't know I didn't know. I asked a simple question and received a simple answer. There's no need to be an @rse about it,

I thought it was very common knowledge, extremely surprised to see people not know it

I'm very surprised too. It's one of those things I just thought everybody knew or would have picked up on when watching games and seeing drop goals on TV etc.


IIRC they said after the game that the try should have been awarded.

I think in that case it should have been play on as he was intending to kick it, compared to (for instance) the Saints try disallowed v Leeds this year where the Saints player dropped the ball onto his leg with no intention to kick it.

Yeah absolutely

Touchy. I was just expressing surprise. You were not the only one who didn't know. That was what surprised me.

Remove chip from shoulder. Breathe. Relax. Repeat with other shoulder.

No chip on my shoulder. I just didn't think your post was necessary. Like I said, it was a simple question, received a simple answer, some people were discussing it, all was well.

Posting a "can't believe you didn't know that" comment a week later serves no purpose other than belittling people.

Get over it. Nobody belittled you.

No, that's because it has to come off your arms or hands to be a knock on; body, legs or head is fine. Also I think the point of a drop kick is that it hits the ground and you kick it simultaneously. If it bounces before you kick it it's a knock on (assuming you're facing the opponents line).