I blame Joel Moon

Yet another poor defensive effort from Hall.

The attention seekers are out tonight it seems.

That's refreshing. The only thing that surprises me is you haven't taken the 'stevie ward being made wellens' b*tch in the lead up to makinsons try' angle. But then i guess that doesn't fit your agenda.

Mr Eve appears to be stocked up on Kleenex for tonight and has gone fishing for bites.

Makinson is not and never will as good as hall. He just got the bounce of the ball (literally)

Whoops! I'd forgotten that the young lad Ward had become the latest scapegoat in the absence of Joel Moon.

Wellens went through Ablett too

Unfortunately you are correct, also the first saints try was from a poor defence line.

Right on cue, the stevie ward fan club! What do you have a crush on him now?

And that first try came from a a Watkins fumble at the PTB

No it wasn't. It is the same try we have conceded many times over last 18 months, when JJB in side. He gets caught out constantly with it.

The BJB on bench would have scratching my head.

Can I just say in Ryan's defence, he showed a fair turn of speed for a chunky lad in his cross field forays....

correct.I was thinking same myself at the time.he needs to sort it out,he has been made to look a mug a few too many times now.

Which was followed by a cheap penalty conceded by Kirke.

I dunno all this arguing.












Please continue.

Behave.......Watkins isn't allowed to be criticised.

The targets have been well established a long time ago.

Ryan Hall yet again missed 33% of the tackles he attempts. He does this every match. He averages two errors every game to compliment this.

There is not a worse winger defensively in super league according to stats, yet I keep getting told he does not have a problem defensively. I can't argue is offence is first class but his defence in excusable.

It must be the stats guys fault, as just to clarify this happens with or without Moon in the side.

Bring back big Keith, Hall hasn't been the same since

Yes there is, a few actually.

No there isn't. But we do know how you massage stats incorrectly though.

But your using stats alone to judge him the worst defensive winger, which in my opinion doesn't reflect reality

Ok, just don't look at Peter Fox or Gene Ormsby or Danny Williams or Ade Gardner or Jamie Foster or Tom Lineham.

I didn't judge him that at all. I said "stats wise he is the worst defensive winger in super league".