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| So this tournament has been a success and we have reached out to new people with our great sport but what do we do next?
Is there an easy answer?
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| England, Australia and the Kiwi's tri series every year
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| I had a terrible feeling before this tournament started that it would be under-attended, poorly promoted and a bit of a damp squib.
How wrong was I?
It's not often I'll praise the RFL but well done on getting it right this time.
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| If logistically and financially it could work I'd like to see the following four year plan
Year 1 aus tour England
Year 2 nz tour england.
Year 3 england tour aus and nz.
Year 4 world cup.
The tourists play catalan and say the top 3 sl clubs, who pocket the gate money.
Team selection for all based on a Yorkshire vs Lancashire three match series.
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| Quote ="leedsleedsleeds"If logistically and financially it could work I'd like to see the following four year plan
Year 1 aus tour England
Year 2 nz tour england.
Year 3 england tour aus and nz.
Year 4 world cup.
The tourists play catalan and say the top 3 sl clubs, who pocket the gate money.
Team selection for all based on a Yorkshire vs Lancashire three match series.'"
Sounds good to me. I think we may finally have gained a bit of interest in international RL. I'd like to see a decent set of 2nd tier internationals too.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"So this tournament has been a success and we have reached out to new people with our great sport but what do we do next?
Is there an easy answer?'"
No, in PR terms its a complete disaster that there is now a three month gap (after next week) before another competitive game of professional RL is played in this country, in PR terms we've just thrown the dice and slid down the snake back to the beginning of the board game again.
Worse still there is an ongoing alternative game of professional rugby that is also showcasing its international side both now and in the spring and they are playing every weekend until May.
Shot ourselves in the foot a bit I'm afraid, its like John Lewis spending all that money on that advert and then closing all its stores until February.
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| We need more games on terrestrial tv, and more high intensity games. Sky is good, but it's not the same as being right in the public view. There also needs to be a step up from SL. We've seen the intensity of the WC, and it's shown that SL is some way off. I'd love to see the War of the Roses brought back.
Also agree about 2nd tier international games. No point bringing these teams in every few years for the WC, they need to be building up to it so they become more competitive.
This competition has really whetted the appetite for international rugby. The RFL, with JP's help, need to make the most of it. Stop running the game so amateurishly and get some good investment and sponsorship
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| I like the format set out above and I'd also add that the Knights play curtain raisers to the test matches against the likes of USA ,Samoa and Tonga etc etc.
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| We have to have a major tournament next year ashes or tri nations and cash in on the World Cup success.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"We have to have a major tournament next year ashes or tri nations and cash in on the World Cup success.'"
we have a 4 nations down under next year
2015 is undecided but a lions tour down under is muted
2016 4 nations over here
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| A tour would be a real blast from the past. We would have to be competitive though.
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| The World Cup has shown the public have an appetite for meaningful international rugby league (not stupid exiles fixtures). Sadly, there won't be any meaningful international rugby league over here for some time.
At the games I've been to there have been very large numbers of people that were not rugby league fans. The best we could do would be market those that bought tickets with details of big games, league games or televised games and try and get attendances and viewing figures up. I doubt we will though.
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| The advantage of a touring side coming over means the potential coach can see players playing against higher level opposition before the test and playing their own natural club roles. I'm sure people would pack out their local stadium to have a pop a the auzzies or seeing SBW. Couple that with a good media campaign and I'm sure people would be interested.
I'd also like to see even more work in schools, clubs offering free coaching more regularly and more competitions with awards etc for players. This could drum up interest in parents.
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| Thanks for giving away the penalty in the last minute - great plan !
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| If all our squad was fit moving forward I dont think we would have to change too much from yesterday.i expect sinfield to call it a day so would move tomkins into the halves with widdop.hardaker or ratchford to full back and Jack reed in for cudjoe and we should be competing well again.
its a shame that it doesnt seem we will get international rugby over here In the next couple of years but when we do,hopefully wembley will be used again.
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| The back row might be an issue actually for the next WC. If Sam Burgess stays at prop which I think he should then we need some new players to step up. O'Loughlin and Westwood will be 35 & 36 by the next WC and one weakness the squad had throughout the tournament was a sub back rower that McNamara had confidence in giving enough game time too as neither Ablett or Farrell nailed their spot (highlighted by Ablett's non appearance at Wembley). Ferres i thought was very good, but again at 27 now he doesn't necessarily hit you as someone like a Burgess or Graham who you can almost guarantee will be just as good going forward in 4 years time and might just be having a couple of peak years now. Ellis has retired, can't see any point picking JJB or Wilkin anymore and Hock is finished at international level.
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| Been to 8 games so far and loved every one apart from the 2nd semi final. Progress with attendance, atmosphere, community involvement etc has been impressive but a financial breakdown would be good prior to declaring this competition an overall success. With funding removed for Scotland so quickly and London experiencing severe difficulties what is the overall financial position of our game at present?
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| It's all what if's but would have been interesting to see how the media/press would have reacted to England RL this week after such a pulsating game. Would we have finally won some continued national attention? Even so we've given a glimpse and definitely captured the imagination of a new audience. It's just a shame there's nothing of a similar standard pencilled in yet, we should be advertising next year's internationals already!
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| Quote ="G1"The World Cup has shown the public have an appetite for meaningful international rugby league (not stupid exiles fixtures). Sadly, there won't be any meaningful international rugby league over here for some time.
At the games I've been to there have been very large numbers of people that were not rugby league fans. The best we could do would be market those that bought tickets with details of big games, league games or televised games and try and get attendances and viewing figures up. I doubt we will though.'"
Geography is a big problem here.
Anyone who watched Saturday's first game could not possibly admit that they wouldn't want more of it. As a game, it had everything and as an occasion, it was fantastic. The last time I went to and England v NZ game, it was against a reatively average NZ at Huddersfield in front of barely more than 20k. To go from that to 70k at Wembley is incredible.
The problem is how we get "more of the same". There is too much self-interest from clubs on both sides of the world for a mid-season test or tour, so that is out of the question. That leaves England looking to play much poorer opposition in the form of France, Wales or an antipodean invitational XIII at Leigh or Salford - and then we're back to square one.
Bring the best in the world to our biggest cities to play in big events. Personally, I'd bin-off the Four Nations (I don't think the additional of a fourth nation really does much good for anyone at this moment in time) and replace with tours every winter.
2014: England v Aus Ashes series at Wembley, Elland Road and Manchester
2015: Five-six week England/Lions tour of Australia and NZ (eg, warm up vs Pacific nation, 1 test vs NZ, 3 tests vs Aus)
2016: England v NZ at Wembley, Elland Road and Manchester
2017: RLWC in Australia
Repeat ad-finatum....
What the RFL ultimately needs to decide now is whether it wants to acknowledge that there is a demand for top-level internationals or whether it wants to bumble along letting badly-run clubs dictate how many domestic games our players should play.
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| I freely admit that I'd fallen out of love with Internationals in recent years. I certainly haven't been to many in recent years before this tournament.
However this world cup, and Saturday in particular has completely re-ignited my passion for it, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. The powers that be need to jump on this and find some way to maximise that increased interest.
I understand the rationale behind a series down under next year, but a part of me thinks it would be so much more beneficial for the sport as a whole to have it up here again.
If they could start advertising and selling tickets for an event at Wembley again this time next year, i wonder how many newly created fans or re-engaged fans would jump all over it straight away? As it stands, a two year or longer wait might just see some of the interest drift away a bit.
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| Wonder who Hayne will play for in the next World Cup?
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| Part of the problem with maintaining the success of a World Cup or Four Nations it the timing.
Where does a new convert to the code go now for his rugby league fix? The professional game in both hemispheres shuts down for three months, so the only alternative is to find a local amateur side that hasn't yet moved to summer.
The appeal of watching a much lower standard of contest, stood in the freezing rain beside a local park pitch for the next three months is going to struggle to hold the interest until SL and the NRL start again.
Prune some unnecessary weekly rounds out of the SL schedule and let's look at clearing a 5-6 week space in July and August for World Cups and Four Nations tournaments. The momentum gained can then be carried on into the finales of the respective domestic seasons, rather than simply being lost in a forest of inactivity.
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| Italy v Canada at elland road for £85 anyone?
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Italy v Canada at elland road for £85 anyone?'"
No thanks....I'm saving myself for the £95 quarter finals, £125 semi finals, and £150 final.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Italy v Canada at elland road for £85 anyone?'"
I bet they still sell more tickets than we got at Headingley for either of the New Zealand games.
That's the pity of it.
& we wonder why the RU has so much money to splash about.
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