FB 1. Hardaker
RW 5. Hall
RC 3. Watkins
LC 4. Moon
LW 2. BJB ( Briscoe ? )
SO 16. Sutcliffe
SH 7. Burrow/McGuire

Prop. 15. Delaney
Hooker 13. Sinfield
Prop. 17. Singleton
2nd row 11. JJB
2nd row 12. Ablett
LF 14. Ward

Sub. 9. NEW HOOKER ( Monaghan - Warrington will sign Clarke )
Sub 8. Lleulai
Sub 10. Peacock
Sub 6. McGuire/Burrow

Remainder of squad from the best of the u-19's inc Foster, Minchella etc

Leeds need to learn how to move on from dependency on the 'old guard' ... . Tony Smith has shown how effective it is to bring on your three 'veteran' first choice front row as interchanges.

What have you done with Kirke?

You know you're not allowed to drop Kirke.

That starting pack would get blown off the park every week.

Why do you want a half-back and a hooker on the bench?

JP on the bench? Easily the best prop of 2013 is worthy of better! Don't care how old he is

1. Zak Hardaker
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
13. Kevin Sinfield
26. Liam Sutcliffe
23. Brad Singleton
9. Paul McShane
10. Jamie Peacock
15. Brett Delaney
12. Carl Ablett
14. Stevie Ward

7. Rob Burrow
8. Kylie Leuluai
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
16. Ryan Bailey

Why swap Hall from the left to the right?

FWIW, and in the hope that this turns into another cracking lists thread, here's how I'd have us line up next season:

1. Hardaker
2. Jones-Bishop/Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Burrow
8. NEW PROP
9. Sinfield
10. Peacock
11. Jones-Buchanan
12. Delaney
13. Ablett

14. Sutcliffe
15. Leuluai
16. Singleton
17. Ward

How long do burrow mcguire sinfield peacock and leuluai (all 30+) have left at the top?

I'd be comfortable with that, assuming an occasional change of acting half play.

One thing to be borne in mind: We've kept the squad together. Warrington are losing at least Morley and Hodgson, and Wigan seem to be losing half their squad.

Wigan lost both half backs, Lima and Carmont for this season - doesn't seem to have done them much harm would you not agree?

Pretty close to where I would be - I would have Singleton starting at 8 with Leuluai, Ablett at 12 and Ward at 13 Peacock and Delaney would be my first interchanges. Hooker is still an issue for me.

Wigan play to such a set structure that they arent so much replacing players, as just finding another to fill that set role within the team, it makes it alot easier and smoother.

Of course.....he will be the new CEO silly



Those photos are very very good and persuasive

No it wouldn't....crazy man

As for half-back and hooker on the bench....whoops

True, but how far can that go?
Their record without Tomkins playing is not good.

Just trying to prolong his career a la Sinfield



Seriously....next season the sooner we learn to not be so dependent on him - and others - the better (that's the fundamental point of my opening post)

......because the Moon/Hall partnership has hardly excelled. Hall has proved he can finish just as well on the right and his partnership with Watkins could be devastating. Let Moon try building a better partnership with Briscoe?

To be honest I like your similar agreement that Sutcliffe, Singleton and Ward should [uall[/u be in the starting first choice 17. BUT surely you must agree we damn well need a good new quality hooker in there ???

Well with no WCC to get up for it'll be interesting to see how we line up. The fixture list for 2014 could sway decisions. The ones involved in the WC could get a rest early on depending on the opponent.

I would suggest Bowen will be a more than adequate replacement - the best NRL import to come to SL since Buderus. Add to that the progression of the youngsters and Wigan will still be there or there abouts come next season.

Bowen will hobble through the season, and certainly won't have the pace and cutting edge on Tomkins. I'm sure Wigan will be "thereabouts" but they won't be what they were.

Neither will leeds.

Who do you expect to overtake us?
I'm suprised at your pessimism though, considering that unlike Wigan and Warrington we aren't losing any key players.

Wigan and warrington are ahead of us. It's up to us to overtake them. I only see us declining from here on in, with the squad in it's current guise.

Considering the losses both those clubs suffer from their squads, how do you see their decline in comparision to any decline we might suffer?

Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
McGuire
Burrow
Peacock
Sinfield
Delaney
Clarkson
Ablett
Ward

Sutcliffe/mcshane/new hooker
New prop mid 20s
Jjb/achurch
Singleton

Would move Delaney up to get a better ball player in the second row which would help Watkins.

I would like to see clarkson get another chance to start.

Don't know enough about the new prop (Yates ) he could go well but it's hard to put too much on him.


Overall the squad needs to be rotated more and players not playing when injured, there also needs to be a realisation that peacock probably won't have the same season again so he can't relied upon.