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Are they in trouble again. The account given by the owner it appears just to be a short term problem, however his account doesn't tally with that of me hunter Paul earlier from twitter.
m.skysports.com/article/rugbyleague//8848443
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Are they in trouble again. The account given by the owner it appears just to be a short term problem, however his account doesn't tally with that of me hunter Paul earlier from twitter.
m.skysports.com/article/rugbyleague//8848443
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| I know diddly squat about running an RL club, but this doesn't immediately scream "positive outlook" at me.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I know diddly squat about running an RL club, but this doesn't immediately scream "positive outlook" at me.'"
Total rubbish. From the 8th August, our players are going to be able to buy food, fill their lawnmowers with petroleum spirit and live high on the hog. If we get to 8th, be afraid....be very afraid
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| That is shame for all the Northern supporters who gave their money to try and help the club last year. From various news items it is clear all is not well at the club and you only had to look at the empty ground when they were on Sky TV against Hull for the alarm bells to be ringing. As much as I dislike Northern the game needs a strong Bradford. The RFL should have done a far better investigation into whether Bradford owner actually had the money he said he did.
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| And people were having a go at John Bateman for showing his frustration on Twitter the other day
Well, he has EVERY right
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"And people were having a go at John Bateman for showing his frustration on Twitter the other day
Well, he has EVERY right'"
I agree,players who went through the hell of last year and thought everything had been sorted only to see this happen again, and so soon have every right to be frustrated.
Lets hope it is just a minor blip and not the start of another fiasco.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"And people were having a go at John Bateman for showing his frustration on Twitter the other day
Well, he has EVERY right'"
I missed that. But while he may well jhave every right to be angry, he should still probably keep it off twitter.
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| For me, and I know some clubs have got away with it, but out of administration once and if you go back in you should be relegated for the next year. Somehow these clubs need to get their house in order and the message needs to be clear.
However, I do think this is just a mountain out of a mole hill, and not as bad as the picture painted.
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| In fairness to the Bulls they are operating on half Sky money so the other clubs have kicked them whilst they were down.
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| Didnt Wakey have a cash flow problem the other week too?
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| I hope it's just a temporary problem, whilst obviously not a bulls supporter it would be disaster for the whole of the league if they folded.
My concern now is the same as when he took over the club, namely has he got enough money to take the club forward and be successful . I suspect he his relatively rich but not in the same league as Paul Caddick , or rich enough to pump millions into the club. It will be harder now to run the club when you are late paying wages, as it flags up danger signals to all and sundry. Especially if you want to borrow money from the banks.
I am not certain how Wakefield are at the moment, every so often conflicting reports emerge from them regarding the financial situation at the club. I gather quite a few clubs are struggling , worrying times indeed.
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| The question I would ask is will they have enough cash to get them through the off season (assuming they don't make the playoffs) with little or no income from September onwards.
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| Quote ="finglas"The question I would ask is will they have enough cash to get them through the off season (assuming they don't make the playoffs) with little or no income from September onwards.'"
The Bulls have had one home fixture in July.
They had no home fixtures in June until the 23rd, three weeks in.
In March they had four away fixtures and one home fixture.
No wonder they have cashflow issues!
They probably have more regular income in the off season from season ticket income than they do for large strecthes of the regular season.
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| Quote ="G1"In fairness to the Bulls they are operating on half Sky money so the other clubs have kicked them whilst they were down.'"
Very well said,totally agree
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| Quote ="G1"In fairness to the Bulls they are operating on half Sky money so the other clubs have kicked them whilst they were down.'"
Agree and how many of those clubs would be on the verge of administration on half the Sky money.
I think they are on reduced money next season as well(correct me if I am wrong) so could be in even more difficulties next year.
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| Quote ="G1"The Bulls have had one home fixture in July.
They had no home fixtures in June until the 23rd, three weeks in.
In March they had four away fixtures and one home fixture.
No wonder they have cashflow issues!
They probably have more regular income in the off season from season ticket income than they do for large strecthes of the regular season.'"
partially selective in the fact that they had 2 home fixtures in June as you would expect.
May had a home fixture (Leeds) plus magic weekend plus a challenge cup game
april had 2 home fixtures (including Wigan) plus a challenge cup game
February had 3 home fixtures to offset March
I take your point though. But September to January will be 5 months for players to be paid.
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| I hope this comes to nothing, but as mentioned earlier their ground did look a little underpopulated on TV. What have their average gates been like this season? I do worry about the prospects for top flight RL, heaven help us if this years World Cup follows a similar financial trajectory to the last one held on these Islands.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"I hope this comes to nothing'"
I no longer give a crap about them. If they go to the wall and disappear then so be it. They are usually one of the first SL clubs on the scene when other SL clubs are in trouble, either attempting to vote a team out of the comp entirely (eg, London) or asset stripping struggling clubs of their players.
Quote ="TOMCAT"but as mentioned earlier their ground did look a little underpopulated on TV. What have their average gates been like this season?'"
Their home attendances are currently 27.27% down on last season and their current average stands at 8797 compared to 12096 (as compared to the same 10 home fixtures last season).
Quote ="TOMCAT"I do worry about the prospects for top flight RL, heaven help us if this years World Cup follows a similar financial trajectory to the last one held on these Islands.'"
The sport in this country is in a mess alrighty. We really could do without staging the World Cup this year.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I no longer give a crap about them.'"
Like you give a crap about anything in this sport, with your endless doomsday scenarios and latest percentage point dips in attendance figures. Jeez, go and follow darts or something you sad, sad lwannabee accountant.
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| Quote ="miscreant"Like you give a crap about anything in this sport, with your endless doomsday scenarios and latest percentage point dips in attendance figures. Jeez, go and follow darts or something you sad, sad lwannabee accountant.
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I think you'll find that Super League will have to vacate it's Thursday night filler spot on Sky Sports once the Premier League Darts kicks off again.
Now please excuse me while I cry about the loss of Yorkshire Radio and blame Ken Bates for absolutely everything.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I no longer give a crap about them. If they go to the wall and disappear then so be it. They are usually one of the first SL clubs on the scene when other SL clubs are in trouble, either attempting to vote a team out of the comp entirely (eg, London) or asset stripping struggling clubs of their players.
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Its pretty hard to argue with much of this , whilst not wanting to see the demise of any club , it is becoming increasingly frustrating for the sport watching the bulls limp from one crisis to another .
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| Who's this William Eve clown
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| Dick(sorry i mean William) is a sad man who believes everything was better in a previous life
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| I hope that the Bulls can not only keep themselves afloat in their troubled times but also again return to the upper echelons of the SL, as IMO the Bulls demise has probably also cost the Rhinos in the region of £100,000 per home game at least each season
I really miss that intense rivalry that both of our clubs thrived on during our derby hey days of the early 2000's and seeing all those large attendances at both grounds
Anyone else miss these big derby matches with big crowds?
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| It never had the kind of historical weight of a real derby, but from 1999 to 2005 they felt like big games and big occasions. I do miss that. It's just another game to me these days.
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