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| The quote from GH indicates there could be some clause to re sign him.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"The quote from GH indicates there could be some clause to re sign him.'"
If that's the case, it is to be hoped that Watson hasn't been COHERSED into agreeing to that clause.
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| Good move all round I suspect. Leeds no longer have to pay for his development ( as he would have probably been dual reg again next year). He moves over so others can have a go. And Leeds can call on him if things get bad with injuries.
Big signing for Hunslet. I bet there are some clubs wishing they had moved quicker. But a contract is only a starting point for negotiation, so he could move again if a SL club come calling; and Hunslet need the money too.
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| Quote ="William Eve"If that's the case, it is to be hoped that Watson hasn't been COHERSED into agreeing to that clause.'"
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| Quote ="W55ARE"...And Leeds can call on him if things get bad with injuries...'"
Only if they agree a loan or sign him back permanently.
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| I wish the lad well he had some bad luck with a serious knee injury when he was on the verge of a 1st team call up and when he finally got his fitness and form back we had earmarked Hardaker for the 1 shirt.
IF he maintains his form and lives up to his earlier potential i wouldn't be surprised to see him back in SL.
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| "@PeteSmithYEP: Jimmy Watson is a fine signing for Hunslet + he'll still be available to Rhinos if needed. Good deal all round. @HunsletHawksRL @leedsrhinos"
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| @PeteSmithYEP: So, signing for Hawks prevents him going elsewhere + keeps him accessible to Leeds.
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| Excellent deal all round if that's the case.
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| Quote ="W55ARE"@PeteSmithYEP: So, signing for Hawks prevents him going elsewhere + keeps him accessible to Leeds.'"
Except that it doesn't.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Except that it doesn't.'"
There's no hope really is there, if the paid correspondents responsible for reporting the game are just as ignorant as the majority of us mere casual spectators/supporters?
Inevitable really that Watson was 'lost'....lad never got a chance (certainly an [iequal[/i chance to Vickery) for reasons I guess we'll never know
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| Quote ="William Eve"If that's the case, it is to be hoped that Watson hasn't been COHERSED into agreeing to that clause.'"
I feel like I've missed something here (yes, I know, I miss lots of things) but what does "cohersed" mean? Is it a word of your own invention or have you borrowed it from somewhere?
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| Quote ="Wheels"Except that it doesn't.'"
It does though, in the laws of the game.
Hunselt hold his contract for 18 months, and therefore he is tied to them. Leeds to all intents and purposes control Hunslet now, so therefore Watson's contract is mearly a Leeds one under another umbrella.
Leeds have first choice on Hunslet players, which would include Watson. Therefore if he succeeds and Leeds want to sign him, then Hunslet will do business. Of course the player also needs to want to return. To add to that, Leeds can sign Hunslet players on loan also if it was a short term thing needed.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I feel like I've missed something here (yes, I know, I miss lots of things) but what does "cohersed" mean? Is it a word of your own invention or have you borrowed it from somewhere?'"
It was a word that Gary Heathrington made up in the war of words with Caisley in the Harris saga
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| Quote ="The Eagle"It was a word that Gary Heathrington made up in the war of words with Caisley in the Harris saga'"
Excellent. Better in the verbal communication than the written I suppose. Did he really write that himself, or does a press officer somewhere need sacking?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It does though, in the laws of the game.
Hunselt hold his contract for 18 months, and therefore he is tied to them. Leeds to all intents and purposes control Hunslet now, so therefore Watson's contract is mearly a Leeds one under another umbrella.
Leeds have first choice on Hunslet players, which would include Watson. Therefore if he succeeds and Leeds want to sign him, then Hunslet will do business. Of course the player also needs to want to return. To add to that, Leeds can sign Hunslet players on loan also if it was a short term thing needed.'"
In the laws of the game, Jimmy Watson is a Hunslet player, not a Leeds player.
In the laws of the game, Hunslet and Leeds are still separate clubs, no matter what 'intents and purposes' you think Leeds might have.
Jimmy Watson is no more a Leeds player than Gareth Ellis is.
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| Quote ="Wheels"In the laws of the game, Jimmy Watson is a Hunslet player, not a Leeds player.
In the laws of the game, Hunslet and Leeds are still separate clubs, no matter what 'intents and purposes' you think Leeds might have.
Jimmy Watson is no more a Leeds player than Gareth Ellis is.'"
Except that in the real world he is.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Except that in the real world he is.'"
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| Watson cannot move freely between Hunslet and Leeds. Dual registration only permits SL players to play for Championship/Championship One clubs, not vice versa.
He is not on dual registration.
The only way he could play for Leeds would be if Hunslet allowed him to go to Leeds on loan at some point in the future.
Given that he's been a regular fixture in their side when fit, I can't see them letting him go out on loan anywhere.
So explain how he is still effectively a Leeds player?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So explain how he is still effectively a Leeds player?'"
He isn't.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Watson cannot move freely between Hunslet and Leeds. Dual registration only permits SL players to play for Championship/Championship One clubs, not vice versa.
He is not on dual registration.
The only way he could play for Leeds would be if Hunslet allowed him to go to Leeds on loan at some point in the future.
Given that he's been a regular fixture in their side when fit, I can't see them letting him go out on loan anywhere.
So explain how he is still effectively a Leeds player?'"
Peter Smith said, Prevents him going elsewhere. Wheels dissagreed with that.
I gave clear as to why what Peter Smith put is correct. Wheels dissagreed.
I didn't say he was a Leeds player, I said his contract is mearly a Leeds one under a different umbrella. You can interpret that how you want. Wheels dissagreed, but without the ability to reason his response he could just use an emotican.
Quote ="Gary Hetherington"All our players are dual-registered with Hunslet, but equally all Hunslet's players are dual-registered with us.
"It may be Hunslet have got a player who could fit the bill for us '"
Watson, as with all other Hunslet players are also registered with Leeds.
So do I take what Wheels says? or what Hetherington says?
Does that answer your question?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Does that answer your question?'"
[url=https://twitter.com/Williams_Darren/status/345603257776889857"GH was wrong, rules don't permit."[/url
- Darren Williams, Hunslet Hawks Director of Rugby.
The full conversation is there if you follow that link.
HTH Gotcha
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| Quote ="Wheels"Jimmy Watson is no more a Leeds player than Gareth Ellis is.'"
Is Gareth Ellis dual registered with Leeds?
Unless Hetherington is lying I'm going to have to agree with Gotcha
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Is Gareth Ellis dual registered with Leeds?
Unless Hetherington is lying I'm going to have to agree with Gotcha'"
Gareth Ellis is not dual registered with Leeds, neither is Jimmy Watson.
Hetherington was incorrect.
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