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| Whilst I am all for coaches to acknowledge the fans now and again, before / during / after games, my impression of the antics of BMD during the pre-game warm was somewhat over-the-top.
The waving and thumbs up to the fans gave the impression that he'd taken the result for granted and basically we'd had to turn up to win. Cocky and unprofessional .... And something that about 90 minutes later, came back to bite him on the backside. Who knows what effect that had on the Leeds team and if it would have been me as the opposition, the perfect incentive and motivation if one was needed.
Well all know that once the game had started that, yet again, we'd failed to come up with an effective game plan to blunt the edge of Danny Scruff's kicking game and meanwhile, Huddersfield were doing an excellent job of snuffing out Moon & Hall down the left flank.
It would be interesting to see the stats, perhaps via Tvoc, of the percentage of games we've won when facing Brough on the opposing side.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Whilst I am all for coaches to acknowledge the fans now and again, before / during / after games, my impression of the antics of BMD during the pre-game warm was somewhat over-the-top.
The waving and thumbs up to the fans gave the impression that he'd taken the result for granted and basically we'd had to turn up to win. Cocky and unprofessional .... And something that about 90 minutes later, came back to bite him on the backside. Who knows what effect that had on the Leeds team and if it would have been me as the opposition, the perfect incentive and motivation if one was needed.
Well all know that once the game had started that, yet again, we'd failed to come up with an effective game plan to blunt the edge of Danny Scruff's kicking game and meanwhile, Huddersfield were doing an excellent job of snuffing out Moon & Hall down the left flank.
It would be interesting to see the stats, perhaps via Tvoc, of the percentage of games we've won when facing Brough on the opposing side.'"
Are there any stats to see if waving and thumbs up to the fans give proportionate defeats and if so will we see a similar and linked improvement if he sticks two fingers up and mouths obscenities at the crowd before a game ?
I think its worth a try.
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You got all that from waving at the the fans?
I just got the impression that he was impressed by the turn out and wanted to show his appreciation to us.
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| He acknoledged the supporters for turning up in numbers, I think it's as simple as that.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Are there any stats to see if waving and thumbs up to the fans give proportionate defeats and if so will we see a similar and linked improvement if he =#0000FFsticks two fingers up and mouths obscenities at the crowd before a game ?
I think its worth a try.'"
I thought that was the primary reason Jimmy Lowes was brought on to the coaching staff. Surprised he's failed to deliver.
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I'll have a look at the Brough record V Leeds Admiral. Usually these things tend to be less conclusive than you would hope but I'll have a gander all the same.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"icon_lol.gif
You got all that from waving at the the fans?
I just got the impression that he was impressed by the turn out and wanted to show his appreciation to us.'"
Call it hairs-on-the-back-of-the-neck intuition from years of listening to Leeds coaches telling us we'll sweep all before us in big matches and then on the day of the game, watch us fall on our face in spectacular fashion ....
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| Really?
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| Nonsense talking sports fan *rolls eyes*
Had the 'pleasure' of sitting with the giants fans on a courtesy ticket yesterday as part of going on the pitch at halftime with my other halfs school. What utter rubbish is spouted from the stands both by home and away supporters! Nice though to say hello to Liam Sutcliffe in the tunnel at half time, great that he's getting that match day experience and hope he makes his debut soon.
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| Leeds V Danny Brough: Results when viewed from a Leeds POV
Overall - Played 18, Won 9, Drawn 0, Lost 9, Pts For 476, Pts Agst 466
(Brough started in sixteen of those (8-icon_cool.gif and off the bench twice (1-1))
Leeds V Danny Brough: Home/Away/Neutral
Home - Played 7, Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 4, Pts For 167, Pts Agst 182
Away - Played 10, Won 6, Drawn 0, Lost 4, Pts For 285, Pts Agst 259
Neutral - Played 1, Won 0, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 24, Pts Agst 25
Leeds V Danny Brough: By Leeds' Opponent:
Brough with Hull - Played 4, Won 2, Drawn 0, Lost 2, Pts For 120, Pts Agst 109
Brough with Castleford - Played 1, Won 0, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 30, Pts Agst 31
Brough with Wakefield - Played 5, Won 4, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 182, Pts Agst 90
Brough with Huddersfield - Played 8, Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 5, Pts For 144, Pts Agst 236
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| There are more glaring capability issues regarding McD than thumbs up antics before the game.
I'll start with his inability to effectively notice what is the bleeding obvious during a game - tactically inept substitutional policy included in said response too the bleeding obvious!!
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| Sweet baby Jesus. AH used to be one of the saner ones too.
We're all doomed!
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Whilst I am all for coaches to acknowledge the fans now and again, before / during / after games, my impression of the antics of BMD during the pre-game warm was somewhat over-the-top.
The waving and thumbs up to the fans gave the impression that he'd taken the result for granted and basically we'd had to turn up to win. Cocky and unprofessional .... And something that about 90 minutes later, came back to bite him on the backside. Who knows what effect that had on the Leeds team and if it would have been me as the opposition, the perfect incentive and motivation if one was needed.
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What a load of absolute nonsense this is.
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| Call it hairs-on-the-back-of-the-neck intuition from years of listening to Leeds s, but I imagine McDermott waving to the Leeds fans had zero effect on the team's subsequent performance.
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| What a load of utter rubbish, McDermott coming to applaud the fans before the game had no bearing on the result. We were simply outplayed, made too many errors and just seemed intent in taking it through the middle especially when we had a man advantage when working it out wide was the best option. The Giants deserved their victory played smarter didn't cough up possession in the same manner Leeds did and I hope they now go on to win it for Yorkshire.
As for the k**b head who was sat near us who was shouting "rubbish" and "you don't deserve this support" to the Leeds players at the end of the game, five league titles in six years and three Challenge cup finals in the last three years suggests they do. We don't have a Devine right to win everything and sometimes you simply have to concede that the other team better, Saturday was such a day
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| Quote ="ROCHDALERHINO"What a load of utter rubbish, McDermott coming to applaud the fans before the game had no bearing on the result. We were simply outplayed, made too many errors and just seemed intent in taking it through the middle especially when we had a man advantage when working it out wide was the best option. The Giants deserved their victory played smarter didn't cough up possession in the same manner Leeds did and I hope they now go on to win it for Yorkshire.
As for the k**b head who was sat near us who was shouting "rubbish" and "you don't deserve this support" to the Leeds players at the end of the game, five league titles in six years and three Challenge cup finals in the last three years suggests they do. We don't have a Devine right to win everything and sometimes you simply have to concede that the other team better, Saturday was such a day'"
Well said. The Admiral should be allowed to go down with his ship (and shipmates)
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| This is a new low from a poster who finds any reason however tenuous to bag the coach and has done pretty much since he was appointed , pathetic .
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| C'mon now people. We won the "niggle" yesterday, which, according to some is an intrical part of the modern game. Perhaps BMD was embracing this new theory, and simply attempting to wind up the opposition?
I think we should wait until July before passing Judgement......
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| Well he's damned if he does......and damned if he doesnt. Mac got stick in the early days for not showing any emotion. We got beat because Hudds had a good game plan, Achurch had a mare, and we started panicking after 20 mins. Despite continually being comprehensively beaten by Hudds we dont seem to give them the respect we give to Saints/Wigan/Wire. Good on them, hope they bring the cup to Yorkshire - something we spectacularly can't.
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| Quote ="ROCHDALERHINO"What a load of utter rubbish, McDermott coming to applaud the fans before the game had no bearing on the result. We were simply outplayed, made too many errors and just seemed intent in taking it through the middle especially when we had a man advantage when working it out wide was the best option. The Giants deserved their victory played smarter didn't cough up possession in the same manner Leeds did and I hope they now go on to win it for Yorkshire.
As for the k**b head who was sat near us who was shouting "rubbish" and "you don't deserve this support" to the Leeds players at the end of the game, five league titles in six years and three Challenge cup finals in the last three years suggests they do. We don't have a Devine right to win everything and sometimes you simply have to concede that the other team better, Saturday was such a day'"
Quality post
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| Quote ="AJC" Good on them, hope they bring the cup to Yorkshire - something we spectacularly can't.'"
Yes. Someone has to stop Wigan. It's funnier when they end the season with nowt, despite everyone (especially themselves) telling the world how they are the 'best team in Superleague'. Last year, we stopped them getting to Wembley and Old Trafford. We did our bit. Now someone else has to step up to the mark. I'd like it to be Huddersfield.
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| I'd personally prefer it to be Sheffield.
I reckon Sheffield have got the hex on Wigan in CC games.
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| You should write to the League Express.......
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