After watching todays origin, it got me thinking, why did we stop playing the battle of the roses? Its good gor the international game (better than the exciles as you have 34 English players than 17), provides an intense test, and its like a trial for the international side. Think about the teams we could have:

Lancashire

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Goulding
5. Riley
6. Sinfeild
7. Lomax
8. Graham / Hill / Mossop
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Tickle
12. Hock
13. O'Loughlin

14. Brown
15. Prescott
16. Cooper
17. Farrell

Yorkshire

1. Eden
2. Briscoe
3. Reed / Atkins / Shenton / Welham
4. Hardaker
5. Hall
6. Widdop / Chase / McGuire
7. Brough
8. Peacock
9. McIlorum
10. Burgess / Carvell
11. Ellis / Buchanan
12. Westwood
13. Wilkin

14. Burrow / Robinson
15. Crabtree
16. Patrick
17. Ablett

With players who aren't from Yorkshire and Lancashire like LMS, Mossop, Henderson, Chase, Heighton ect.... they would have to choose a side like Uate did, ect..... Players in Australia would probabley have to miss out, like Australian players in England miss out on Origin in Australia

I think I'd rather watch a match like this than an Exciles game......... increases rivarly, competition for England places, I'd think more people would want to watch it, what do you think?

We tried this concept years ago but it failed because Lancashire were disinterested and are soft.

I like the Concept but many don't.........Hence why is was Scrapped. I agree with you personally. I'd bring it back.

Now we have the mid-season 2 game exciles series, I don't see why we couldn't go back to Origin. There'd surely be more interest than in Exiles

Is that the "Roses Origin" idea some years back that Tonie Carroll was interviewed before the game on sky telling cameras it was a great idea and he was eagerly anticipating the kick off................then headed to the Sky Rack to play pool with Brett Mullins and didn't even watch the game???





Poorly supported and the likes Peacock wouldnt be happy with even more games!!!

I believe I mentioned this some months back

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I think it was be good if we Billed it as our State of Origin!

I think 1 Roses Origin and 1 Exiles match instead of the 2 Exiles matches would be better. Wasn't one of the problems with them Roses matches from a few years back that they were midweek games (wednesday for one i believe?) not the best night for it.

Weekend Games, Flashy Promos and a Desire to beat them over the Hill.

What more could you ask for?

Plus extra Revenue from Merch like Shirts and Stickers Blah Blah.

I would be all for it tbh.

It would help break the monotomy of the season up along with the Exiles game, throw something in there mid season thats just a change from the norm of waiting for another round of regular season league fixtures to come along at the weekend. Leave it as 1 off games though, don't jump into trying to play 2 or 3 game series like the Aussies can.

Still doubt it would get any support......now if you were to suggest a North of England versus Southern Softies competition that would entice me in.

The county origin game would turn into little more than a trial match for the England team.

..a trial game has actually the point of the exercise.

Having said that, the problem has been that the county games have always been low intensity, with as swiftcorn said, Lancs generally being rubbish for whatever reason. Cumbria was always the county that could be guaranteed to show effort - sadly they don't have the quality of players to compete with even a half-interested Yorks/Lancs.

The only way you could seriously use the county games is if the England coach clearly stated that whoever plays best in each position - regardless of reputation - would get picked. That's what Australia have done sometimes in the past - sometimes to the detriment of the national team.

Was actually fortunate to be at the game at Etihad stadium last night (melbourne, not manchester!). Tells a story that no-one recognised my blue and white Yorkshire roses shirt from that ill-fated series a few years back. They didn't really give it chance in my opinion. At least there'd be the potential for a bit of a rivalry and some big interest. Frankly, who gives a RA about the exiles concept?

I'd be up for it. Nantwich is right in one respect (noooooooo!) the major pull would be north Vs south. Shouldn't be long to wait..... Bugger.



What about Yorkshire Vs every other county? Cumbria, lancs with a few londoners? Only stipulation is they need to be able to represent GB/England.

I don't think a "North Vs South" Origin match would work.

Talent from the South anyone??

Origin of the Roses with a big build up and some Education for those Young People who might not have a clue about the War of the Roses.

I think it could be a success, if we as fans make it a success.

Not at the current "elite" level yet no, but maybe the seed should be planted at junior level.

I loved the Roses concept when it first came out and I still proudly sport my Yorkshire shirt. I'd love to see it revived, especially in place of Exiles. There was no atmosphere at the games last year. At least the roses games have some real heritage outside the sport and could provide a level of intensity between week in week out Super League grind and being ripped apart by the Australians/NZ. It does need setting up correctly though, weekend date would be a priority really, gives it more qudos than a shoehorned in midweek game!

We should just have Yorkshire vs. the Rest of the World, like with everything else.

...but they wont. Besides, the RL is trying to distance itself from its parochial past....resurrecting a Yorks v Lancs concept will simply seal it into its past. It's not going to happen.

As for "talent from the South"....come on. If the rules can be bent to accomodate the likes of Chase into qualifying for England it's not going to take a great deal of stretching the imagination/bending the rules to breaking point, to generate a Southern England team.

I was thinking about this whilst watching the game. I went to a couple of the YorksVsLancs games and they were poor.

My idea would be 'Battle of Britain' East Vs West. Maybe not the best title but work in progress.

English players would be picked based on the location of the team they play for rather than their location of birth.

East - Players selected from:
Bradford
Cas
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Leeds
London
Wakefield

West - Players selected from:
Catalan (I know they are east but we have to balance things)
Salford
St Helens
Warrington
Widnes
Wigan

A one off game maybe held at the Galpharm on a weekend where prior to the game some junior and amateur cup finals are played instead or as well as before the challenge cup final.

Only an idea but some interesting teams could be selected.

I remember yorkshire battering lancs and diskin being the best player on the pitch by a mile. Come test time he never got a look in. Its a complete waste of time and money. Same old faces will get picked

crabtree mentioned he would like to play for yorkshire

Yorkshire are waaaaaay more bothered about this "rivalry" than Lancashire, hence it will never work.

Always makes me smile when we travel away and hear the "Yorkshire" chant - never crosses my mind to chant about Lancashire when supporting Saints (cue - that's because you're from merseyside jibe

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I enjoyed those games in the sixties between Cumbria Lancashire & Yorkshire. I would welcome a return of a Lancashire v. Yorkshire match but played @ the weekend rather than during the week, as they did in the past.