Looks like you may be playing in a one-off kit like the Eagles did last year to highlight Homophobia in sport and raise awareness of it. www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490

Looks like you may be playing in a one-off kit like the Eagles did last year to highlight Homophobia in sport and raise awareness of it. www.sheffieldeagles.com/index.ph ... Itemid=490

Can't they just shake at the end of the game?

Interesting. What was involved in this? Just a one-off special kit? I've not heard much about it.

No announcement from the Rhinos PR machine yet. Presumably pre-occupied with WCC and new home kit launch.

Is it pink again?

Anyone who thinks they can get rid of institutionalised 'homophobia' (I really do hate that term) has had too much powder up their nose.

Yes, but with the sponsors and badges is sequins.... We'll look like a right set of nancy boys.

CoooEeee

I think it’s a great idea for two reasons. The first reason is its great to see a big club promoting that homophobia is not good. I remember working with a lad that was out but daren't come out at work because he didn’t know how his colleagues would treat him. It’s a bloody disgrace when someone feels afraid to be themselves. Hopefully Leeds can raise awareness as the government tackles racism and disability discrimination on all fronts but this issue always seems to be third or forth in line.

From a purely business and financial view which is very naive but we are a business, there is a lot of money to be made from the pink pound. There is a large gay community in Leeds and it'd be great if they were encouraged to come to the game.

Wonder if we'll wear it at Castleford away?!

I wouldn't equate racism and disability discrimination with 'homophobia'. The former are completely irrational - racism involves treating people differently due to something as arbitrary as skin colour, and discriminating on the basis of disability is just mean-spirited, disabled people cannot help their condition.

Heck, perhaps my religious beliefs have helped shape this view, but my disapproval of homosexual behaviour forms part of my overall attitude towards sexual morality. There is a big difference between arbitrary prejudice such as racism and disapproval of an individual's sexual behaviour.

Don't get me wrong though, no one deserves to be bullied, harassed or worse because they are gay.

The only problem with the religious objection to homosexual "behaviour" - and we are invariably speaking of the sexual act when religion and homosexuality appear in the same sentence* - is that it treats the topic as if it is un-natural behaviour, which it clearly isn't as most other species engage in what would be regarded as homosexual sex if it had been humans partaking and not (for example) chimpanzees, or dogs etc.

So if God made dogs gay then is it so inconceivable that he could make humans gay too ?


*Which of course it patently isn't the only consideration but it only seems to be the sexual act that most christians get uppity about.

Hopefully they'll get Miss Orry to take over the match day microphone duties to introduce the teams and that. She's absolutely fantastic down at Queens Court

You're making an inaccurate assumption here Mr chicken - referring to the divine one as "God" would imply that this religion is Christianity but at no point in the bible is homosexuality condemned.

…and judging by the sexual behaviour of a percentage of Catholic priests homosexuality is actively practiced in the Christian religion.

I'd take issue with that and say that most Christians I know believe that such behaviour [iis[/i natural, in the sense that mankind is naturally susceptible to sin. I certainly consider homosexual 'acts' to be on a par with other immoralities such as sex outside of marriage, sins whereby man submits to temptation.

I don't want to get bogged down in the whole 'gay debate', but I thought it was important to make the distinction between things you cannot change (race, disability) and things you can change with the help of the Holy Spirit (homosexual inclinations).

My ten bobs worth.

Being gay is not a life style choice or a decision that an individual makes - in the words of that Ga-Ga woman "you're born that way", as much as you're born black or disabled. You have no choice in the matter.

Race, Disability and homosexuality are all things that an individual can't change.

Your narrow minded views are not only misguided but also wrong.

This seemss to be creating an issue that doesn't exist. Its on par with the whole racism in football thing - the way footballers and other "personalities" have been harping on about it lately, you'd think that it is inherent in every football ground on a weekly basis, whereas in reality, the only two racist incidents of this season have been down to two utter clowns making a racist comment. Imagine what would happen if everyone started chucking bananas in this country. I've never known of any homophobia in RL. Don't believe the hype.

I really didn't want to get dragged into this, but please, let me clarify my position.

I'm not saying being gay is a choice. I do not doubt that gay people feel very real, natural urges towards people of the same sex. What I believe is that God has made it clear that such relations are sinful and that gay people should refrain from acting on their urges, perhaps in the same way someone should abstain from sex before marriage.

I'm not saying that it would be easy, but I believe in living by the Bible. That's the way it is.

I really didn't want to get bogged down in theology, I just wanted to make the point that you cannot change your race or disability, but you can choose to refrain from homosexual acts (which, as pointed out earlier, is the sin, not the 'orientation').

I suppose it's a good stance taken by the club. Personally I couldn't care less if some one wants to weigh anchor in poo bay. It doesn't matter if we're gay,straight or Australian in my book.

Care to let us know where in the bible same-sex relationships are condemned?

There was a thread regarding Racism in general on here a season or two back, which was a fairly interesting read, and this could be a similar thread. There wont be too many people on here brave enough to offer a different perspective to the anti homophobia line with any sort of application like you have done already, so if this thread picks up into something interesting, i hope you make yourself a part of it.

For my money, please read Norman Stanley Fletchers previous post.

I cant see that judging someone for the colour of their skin is any more arbitrary than judging someone for where they put their willy.
Neither seem to be a good indicator of the quality of that person in my experience.

I fully understand and agree with what you are saying, although your final comment, I find a little bazar. There are many Leeds Rhinos fans who happen to be LGBT...

Ronnie Rhino has attended Leeds Pride for the last few years, the largest event in the City Centre with 23,000 people attending for one day!



I never had you down as a QC type of guy... more The Viaduct or The Bridge...

Don't you just hate Religion and its illogical beliefs. Who is this god fellow anyway ? What choice has he given to millions of hindus and countless other belevers in other gods indoctrinated purely through an accident of birth ? Why did he happily allow beliefs in many gods prior to making his appearance in judiasm if it is such a sin ? Why is he so indiscriminate in his punishments when supposedly such a supreme being ? You could say he is a bit of a devil really. Who created him then ? Bit useless of a supreme all powerful being to allow competition to thrive. Indeed who created god ? And if we were created in his image why the hell has he got sinuses that drain upwards ? Great design that one. Complements the human birth ( why did he not make us marsupials ? ) and the wasp that lays its eggs inside live prey right good. Lovely. How do you know the hindus are wrong ? The maoris ? The incas ? The jehovah witnesses ? The bluddy druids ? You don't .. Nobody does. Stop wasting your life. Atheism rules.
The bible was written by men at a time of relative scientific ignorance. Nothing more. Ditto the koran. Do muslims ever question how they would obey ramadam if they lived well inside the arctic circle? I am not into gay love myself but if two consenting adults want to indulge so be it.

I believe it's a sin to call it a sin

..... And my god is better than your god.

... And another thing ..give me two consenting adults anytime over a jerk who uses the " respectable " cloak of religion to justify impregnating multiple young girls barely into puberty as his divinely endorsed polygamised right... . Or those that fly innocent children into American skyscrapers carrying out god's pretty crude will.

Thing is though, as unpalatable as it to all ? of us here, it is just as likely that one of these gods might be the true god as much as we might want to believe otherwise. We all believe what we want to believe, or what is indoctrinated into us...nobody ( not even me ) can state unequivocably they are right.
Hedge your bets anyone ? Believe in all gods just to be on the safe side. That's a tricky one though. Think I might just go for worshiping the creator of our creator ...and all the other creators.... She ? must be something special. Unless she was also created ......? In which case....

Anyway - what does this entail? What did the Eagles do as part of this campaign?