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| According to Radio Leeds
Carnegie and Us will play in the same ground next season.
Getting a loan was too much for Caddick
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| If true, and if that's the reason it's all pretty disappointing. They should have had a good idea what it was going to cost and some contingency for it being more than budgeted, which I accept these things often are.
They've sold this to fans for 2 years now, made a big deal of getting planning permission so if it was to be put on hold for another year I'd be slightly underwhelmed to be honest
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| You know what, as I left the rocking old place on Friday night I wondered why on earth they were knocking it down.
Upgrade it a bit, for sure, but why intrinsically alter the most atmospheric part of the ground. The money could be better spent on upgrading the team, otherwise attendances will tumble in these tough times.
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| If true, then how are the club going to accommodate all the fans in just three stands next season?
According to Hetherington, [i"We have to do it and we have to do it now"[/i, otherwise the South Stand will have to be closed down if redevelopment work does not begin this autumn.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"According to Hetherington, [i"We have to do it and we have to do it now"[/i, otherwise the South Stand will have to be closed down if redevelopment work does not begin this autumn.'"
I am sure Gareth will tell you that he never made a committment that said straight away. What he actually meant was that it would have to close down eventually, leaving the dates open for a get out.
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| Quote ="the canaries"According to Radio Leeds
Carnegie and Us will play in the same ground next season.
Getting a loan was too much for Caddick'"
WE play in the same ground already.
I wasn't aware there was ever any plan for Carnegie to move out
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| We are probably going to struggle to get a safety certificate for the Southstand next season and I have to say, as I know technically why that it is, then I fully support the reasoning behind this. The Southstand is no longer fit for purpose structurally and otherwise and needs to be replaced. I suspect to get it open, for another season or two, then some reasonable level of structural remedial work will be required and I am not sure this is a cost effective course of action.
Lets see what the club have to say, as I assume a press release will be issued soon?
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| Quote ="miscreant"You know what, as I left the rocking old place on Friday night I wondered why on earth they were knocking it down.'"
Because it is structurally on it's last legs and needs replacing. It is nearly 85 years old and the old girl just isn't what she used to be!
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The comments on that article are awesome.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"
Lets see what the club have to say, as I assume a press release will be issued soon?'"
Yes its a bit disapointing that I release a story and there is nothing on the clubs site.
I hope I heard Jake Katborg correctly
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"icon_confused.gif WE play in the same ground already.
I wasn't aware there was ever any plan for Carnegie to move out'"
When he wrote the same ground, I think the OP meant that the ground would still be unchanged, i.e. no building work done.
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| If there's a problem with funding of the new stand which necessitates a delay, why don't the club initiate a...
... "BUY A SPOT IN THE SOUTH STAND SCHEME!"
For this, you get a blue and amber glazed terrace spot which is uniquely yours, along with your photo taken by a professional photographer and a tour of the eyesore. And... there's only 7,500 to be had so get in quickly!!!
Corner spots (between touchlines and 20m line) - £150
Centre spots - £250
Centre spots at rear - £1000 (ts will pay anything).
That'll rake in several million.
*[uNote[/u: Purchase of aforementioned blue and amber glazed terrace spot does not guarantee ownership of said spot, just a commitment by the club, as far as is reasonably possible, to allocate on the basis of purchase of a 10 year season ticket and a lifetime membership of the Rhinos 4 Life scheme which entitles you to 10% discount on selected club merchandise.
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| Is the issue that Caddick wanted a cheap loan from the Council rather than having to go for a commercial rate?
He must have known what the answer was likely to be given the current finances of local government.
If the stand has to close losing the current capacity, what will be the maximum capacity of the ground then be & what would the impact of that be on the club's revenue?
It would hardly comply with the Superleague requirements for stadia I'd have thought to only have three sides available for spectators. But it would always look full when we're on tv.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"When he wrote the same ground, I think the OP meant that the ground would still be unchanged, i.e. no building work done.'"
Correct, thanks!!
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| The cap of the ground would be roughly 14k if the Southstand closed. Problem is that over half of the capacity is "expensive" seating so I doubt we would get many sell outs if that was the case.
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| If the licences were coming up next year we may just scrape in.
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| If true this is a bit rubbish isn't it.
We may as well write 2012 off. Crap coach likely to be still in place, no decent signings, and nowhere to stand even if you feel motivated to go.
I am very interested to see what our average attendance will look like at the end of next year.
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| may as well sell up and look for a new site build new stadium
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| I was taken aback a little at the clubs recent statements about having meeting about finances and dates etc.I would have thought they cost was in place at the time of permission being granted.
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| I think we are running out of rope
Get a grip some of you... this will turn into an online suicide ring if you aren't careful.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"I think we are running out of rope
Get a grip some of you... this will turn into an online suicide ring if you aren't careful.'"
yes your right
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| Average Attendance this year is 15,092. Excluding playoffs.
That's down 262 people on last years 15354 (also excluding playoffs).
2005, 2007 & 2008 were all in the 17ks. (17012, 17558 & 17043 respectively).
Interestingly, 2009 (the season after we'd won back to back titles, and went on to win 3 in a row) drop right down to 15773.
For the past 5 years our average attendance has decreased year on year, despite us winning titles for 3 of those 5 years.
Since 2007, our average attendance has reduced by 14.75%, or 3.69% per year. If you apply that same % reduction to this years, we can expect an average attendance of around 14,535. That's IF we just lost an average amount. Performances on the pitch, coaching staff, no recruitments and lack of space off the pitch could all result in us losing more than average. In my opinion we could easily see an average attendance in the 13,000s.
Still, as long as GH is happy.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"icon_lol.gif I am sure Gareth will tell you that he never made a committment that said straight away. What he actually meant was that it would have to close down eventually, leaving the dates open for a get out.'"
Ive just read his statement again "he said we have to do it and we have to do it now"
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| Maybe our biggest signing this summer will be at boardroom level. We could do with a bit more gender equality.
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