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| scene enough. to form an opinion on our new coach.
time to go. another dire performance. can't see us getting anything against Huddersfield next week either.
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| Next week there will be people situated around the ground with buckets making a collection. All contributions will go towards paying the current coaching staff off and employing someone, anyone in their place. Please dig deep.
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| Sadly a failure at Harlequins assisted by a failure at Wire will never equal success at Leeds. Poor coaching and disinterested players = epic fail.
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| Players who should know better are making elementary errors, our two new signings seem to be duds so far, some established senior players are in poor form and, therefore, the injuries to our best back and best forward are exposing the squad. Not sure this is the coach's fault.
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| I'm not for knee jerk reactions as there are more than a few injuries but that performance was shambolic. Players throwing stupid passses week after week, 11 to 3 penalty count, defence all over the place. If Senior said they weren't coached under Bluey what are Mc Dermott and Lowes up to!
No other word to describe that performance other than rubbish. There is something seriously wrong for professional rugby players who have been training since Dec to be in that much of a disarray. Either it's the players or the coach, take your pick!
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Print the picture above and throw darts at it. Even after 100 throws, they’ll still be more holes in Brian McDermott’s knowledge of rugby league than they is on the print out.
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| I don't know what 'Rhinos' fans were expecting this season. You were never going to challenge the big clubs like Wire.
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| Quote ="JMT"Players who should know better are making elementary errors, our two new signings seem to be duds so far, some established senior players are in poor form and, therefore, the injuries to our best back and best forward are exposing the squad. Not sure this is the coach's fault.'"
Agree. I'm pretty sure Mcdermott didn't tell Senior to throw a silly pass to Watkins, didn't tell Leeds to give silly penalties away, didn't tell Alibert to blow for our forward passes and ignore Hull KR's etc etc.
Leeds fans call for coaches' head after 9 games-what a shock!
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| Sorry but as a season ticket holder for years i'm sick of been sold out for the cheaper option. Its just a joke in the defensive line at the moment 6's and 7's spring to mind. I know we have a few injuries but our squad should be and is strong enough to be able to get though these patches
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| Still no worse than last year. And last year we had McGuire and Peacock playing.
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| I am not for calling for his head but it gets more difficult to try and defend him when there is no real improvement.
At least his half time team talk this week didn't involve playing with a rubber glove. Gonna try to get de stressed before commenting too much in heat of moment.
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| It's a shambles week after week. Nobody knows where to stand , where to run or what to do. Macdermott is clueless
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| Quote ="Ferdy"At least his half time team talk this week didn't involve playing with a rubber glove. Gonna try to get de stressed before commenting too much in heat of moment.'"
Maybe the rubber glove is the ultimate player motivational tool. You don't know what happens to players who don't obey orders. Maybe the glove, along with vaseline and a hedgehog is put to some diabolical use. Casually playing with an instrument of terror is all that's required.
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| MacD has no idea. Never mind the injuries etc. that side was good enough to win the game. The fact that Bailey was the best forward says it all
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| Pizzs me off when folk keep blaming the players,we are playing a dumb style of rugby and Macdumbnut is to blame for that.
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| The half-time coverage of the dressing room doesnt seem to be doing him any favours at the moment.
It could just be bad timing but it looked like it was Lowes delivering the half-time team talk.
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| Enough is enough.
The failed Quins Coach and the failed Wire Coach we have in charge. I didn’t support their appointment, but like all Leeds coaches I wished them every success. However, after one third of the season, early I know, I have seen enough.
They obviously have an instruction to change the playing style but these guys don’t appear to be the ones to deliver it.
What actually is the game plan? Does anyone know? I’m not sure the players understand it either and I think that is the root cause of so many daft passes and errors. There does not appear to be any simple rules on exit sets, allowing scope for stupid offloads. (see Senior today). In fact the offload errors, bad pass selection, have been evident every week. Why aren’t the coaches working on this? If they are it isn’t having any effect.
Has the concept of building pressure been abandoned completely? It certainly looks like it. Repeat sets and penalties create tries. We do not appear to consider these concepts in our “game plan”.
Burrow is a wasted resource without runners in motion, so why aren’t there any runners in motion for him? Are we really to believe that back rowers and centres are sent out with clear instructions of what lines to run and are consistently ignoring them? Or do they not know where to stand/run because its all left to make it up as we go along.
When we do attempt to put on planned moves why are so many breaking down? I reckon a good 50% of planned plays ended in confusion today. What’s that all about?
Defensively we are all over. Has this area been completely forgotten in the throw the ball about at all costs masterplan? Individual players get hammered for defensive “mistakes” but it looks like a team thing to me. They look confused as to where to stand and who to pick up.
I could go on, confusion amongst playmakers as to their roles, a muddled kicking game, mistakes with substitutions (Bailey on too long 1st half last week, Buderus off at the wrong time 1st half this week).
McDermott will pepper the press conference with “learn from this” clichés but that is exactly what they are not doing.
Not good enough with the squad at their disposal. A dodgy appointment gone bad.
(At least I feel better for venting that!)
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| Quote ="WireWonder"I don't know what 'Rhinos' fans were expecting this season. You were never going to challenge the big clubs like Wire.'"
How can anyone class Warrington as a big club when you play in a 13,024 capacity stadium?
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| Quote ="dany1979"The half-time coverage of the dressing room doesnt seem to be doing him any favours at the moment.
It could just be bad timing but it looked like it was Lowes delivering the half-time team talk.'"
Better than last week when he was staring blankly at the floor while playing with a rubber glove
On a serious note we only see a few seconds and hpefully he is having some sort of input in there.
The point regarding blaming Mcdermott for our losses. I agree to some exstent, he has been with these players for 6 months now and performances should be improving. But also players have to take some blame for the poor errors, mistakes and general ineptitude. All including GH have to take some blame. GH wanted this style of play. Mcdermott appears to be struggling to coach it and the players cannot play it.
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"Enough is enough.
The failed Quins Coach and the failed Wire Coach we have in charge. I didn’t support their appointment, but like all Leeds coaches I wished them every success. However, after one third of the season, early I know, I have seen enough.
They obviously have an instruction to change the playing style but these guys don’t appear to be the ones to deliver it.
What actually is the game plan? Does anyone know? I’m not sure the players understand it either and I think that is the root cause of so many daft passes and errors. There does not appear to be any simple rules on exit sets, allowing scope for stupid offloads. (see Senior today). In fact the offload errors, bad pass selection, have been evident every week. Why aren’t the coaches working on this? If they are it isn’t having any effect.
Has the concept of building pressure been abandoned completely? It certainly looks like it. Repeat sets and penalties create tries. We do not appear to consider these concepts in our “game plan”.
Burrow is a wasted resource without runners in motion, so why aren’t there any runners in motion for him? Are we really to believe that back rowers and centres are sent out with clear instructions of what lines to run and are consistently ignoring them? Or do they not know where to stand/run because its all left to make it up as we go along.
When we do attempt to put on planned moves why are so many breaking down? I reckon a good 50% of planned plays ended in confusion today. What’s that all about?
Defensively we are all over. Has this area been completely forgotten in the throw the ball about at all costs masterplan? Individual players get hammered for defensive “mistakes” but it looks like a team thing to me. They look confused as to where to stand and who to pick up.
I could go on, confusion amongst playmakers as to their roles, a muddled kicking game, mistakes with substitutions (Bailey on too long 1st half last week, Buderus off at the wrong time 1st half this week).
McDermott will pepper the press conference with “learn from this” clichés but that is exactly what they are not doing.
Not good enough with the squad at their disposal. A dodgy appointment gone bad.
(At least I feel better for venting that!)'"
The key is in your second paragraph.
Quote ="Maverick Rhino" However, after one third of the season, '"
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| The thing is.... I'm not calling for mcdermotts head but given current tactics & defence I just can't see us improving consistency. We really are all over the shop and for the first time in years I thing the players are starting to lack belief. Don't know what options we have but I am absolutely raging after that shocker.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"All including GH have to take some blame. GH wanted this style of play.'"
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Quote ="Ferdy"Mcdermott appears to be struggling to coach it and the players cannot play it.'"
It'll only work if [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds_rhinos_let_s_tackle_the_problem_mcdermott_1_3269618THREE MAN TACKLES ARE OUTLAWED[/url
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| Quote ="Him"The key is in your second paragraph.'"
It might be. I hope it is, I want Leeds to succeed and he has two thirds of the season to correct this mess.
However, on what you have seen so far, can you see that happening?
In fact can you think of one area that has been broken and subsequently fixed this season?
I'm open to suggestions.
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