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Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Leeds: 1715 - 235 (7.30 ) - 229 - 13 (95%) - 14 - 7
Webb: 176 - 18 (9.78 ) - 5 - 1 (83%) - 2 - 1
Jones-Bishop: 0 - 0 (N/A) - 1 - 1 (50%) - 0 - 0
Watkins: 127 - 13 (9.77) - 8 - 1 (89%) - 0 - 0
Senior: 81 - 15 (5.40) - 15 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 0
Hall: 64 - 9 (7.11) - 11 - 3 (79%) - 2 - 0
Sinfield: 117 - 24 (4.88 ) - 15 - 0 (100%) - 3 - 0
Burrow: 138 - 20 (6.90) - 10 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Jones-Buchanan: 128 - 17 (7.53) - 24 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 2
Buderus: 76 - 12 (6.33) - 15 - 2 (88%) - 1 - 1
Kirke: 112 - 14 (8.00) - 23 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 0
Hauraki: 135 - 13 (10.38 ) - 24 - 2 (92%) - 2 - 1
Lauitiiti: 112 - 17 (6.59) - 19 - 0 (100%) - 2 - 0
Ablett: 125 - 18 (6.94) - 8 - 1 (89%) - 0 - 2
McShane: 69 - 10 (6.90) - 8 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Clarkson: 99 - 14 (7.07) - 24 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Pitts: 94 - 12 (7.83) - 15 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Singleton: 62 - 9 (6.89) - 4 - 0 (100%) - 0 – 0
Try Assists:
Kevin Sinfield (Keith Senior Try)
Kevin Sinfield (Weller Hauraki Try)
Kevin Sinfield (Kallum Watkins Try)
Kevin Sinfield (Brent Webb Try)
Kallum Watkins (Carl Ablett Try)
Brent Webb (Ali Lauitiiti Try)
As a kick through is almost always given as an Assist I’m assuming that no Assist was given to Brent Webb for the Jamie Jones-Buchanan try. No Assist also for the first of Carl Ablett’s tries (McShane pass, Salford touch)
(*Kevin Sinfield equals Rob Burrow's record of 4 Try Assists in a game which was set in this same round last season.)
Previous Round/s:
Bradford (N) SL16-01 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=482879
Hull (A) SL16-02 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=483796
Harlequins (H) SL16-03 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=484679
Warrington (A) SL16-04 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=485544 |
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Leeds: 1715 - 235 (7.30 ) - 229 - 13 (95%) - 14 - 7
Webb: 176 - 18 (9.78 ) - 5 - 1 (83%) - 2 - 1
Jones-Bishop: 0 - 0 (N/A) - 1 - 1 (50%) - 0 - 0
Watkins: 127 - 13 (9.77) - 8 - 1 (89%) - 0 - 0
Senior: 81 - 15 (5.40) - 15 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 0
Hall: 64 - 9 (7.11) - 11 - 3 (79%) - 2 - 0
Sinfield: 117 - 24 (4.88 ) - 15 - 0 (100%) - 3 - 0
Burrow: 138 - 20 (6.90) - 10 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Jones-Buchanan: 128 - 17 (7.53) - 24 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 2
Buderus: 76 - 12 (6.33) - 15 - 2 (88%) - 1 - 1
Kirke: 112 - 14 (8.00) - 23 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 0
Hauraki: 135 - 13 (10.38 ) - 24 - 2 (92%) - 2 - 1
Lauitiiti: 112 - 17 (6.59) - 19 - 0 (100%) - 2 - 0
Ablett: 125 - 18 (6.94) - 8 - 1 (89%) - 0 - 2
McShane: 69 - 10 (6.90) - 8 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Clarkson: 99 - 14 (7.07) - 24 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Pitts: 94 - 12 (7.83) - 15 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Singleton: 62 - 9 (6.89) - 4 - 0 (100%) - 0 – 0
Try Assists:
Kevin Sinfield (Keith Senior Try)
Kevin Sinfield (Weller Hauraki Try)
Kevin Sinfield (Kallum Watkins Try)
Kevin Sinfield (Brent Webb Try)
Kallum Watkins (Carl Ablett Try)
Brent Webb (Ali Lauitiiti Try)
As a kick through is almost always given as an Assist I’m assuming that no Assist was given to Brent Webb for the Jamie Jones-Buchanan try. No Assist also for the first of Carl Ablett’s tries (McShane pass, Salford touch)
(*Kevin Sinfield equals Rob Burrow's record of 4 Try Assists in a game which was set in this same round last season.)
Previous Round/s:
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Hull (A) SL16-02 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=483796
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Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Salford: 982 - 181 (5.43) - 283 - 34 (89%) - 12 - 5
Patten: 43 - 14 (3.07) - 7 - 4 (64%) - 0 - 0
Henry: 122 - 12 (10.17) - 3 - 2 (60%) - 0 - 0
Gibson: 126 - 17 (7.41) - 8 - 5 (62%) - 1 - 0
Nero: 44 - 8 (5.50) - 15 - 1 (94%) - 2 - 0
Broughton: 67 - 8 (8.38 ) - 7 - 1 (88%) - 1 - 0
Ratchford: 60 - 10 (6.00) - 11 - 2 (85%) - 2 - 0
Holdsworth: 48 - 21 (2.29) - 17 - 2 (89%) - 3 - 1
Cashmere: 112 – 19 (5.89) - 31 - 3 (91%) - 0 - 1
Godwin: 38 - 8 (4.75) - 20 - 1 (95%) - 1 - 0
Boyle: 52 - 10 (5.20) - 27 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 0
Neal: 3 - 4 (0.75) - 19 - 1 (95%) - 0 - 0
Adamson: 37 - 8 (4.63) - 17 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Wild: 63 - 12 (5.25) - 35 - 4 (90%) - 0 - 1
Smith: 32 - 6 (5.33) - 14 - 1 (93%) - 2 - 1
Spencer: 36 - 8 (4.50) - 27 - 3 (90%) - 0 - 1
Sidlow: 75 - 13 (5.77) - 20 - 2 (91%) - 0 - 0
Palea’aesina: 24 - 3 (8.00) - 5 - 1 (83%) - 0 - 0
Try Assists:
Daniel Holdsworth (Stefan Ratchford Try)
Matty Smith (Adam Sidlow Try)
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Surprised at Halls 3 missed tackles. But this was somewhat compensated by at least two occassions where he was left stranded by his centre 1 against 2 or 3, and he managed to come out and tackle ball and all the oppossition player. Excellent tackles they were.
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That penalty count could of been anything considering who had te whistle so i would'nt count it for anything note- worthy
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Surprised at Halls 3 missed tackles. But this was somewhat compensated by at least two occassions where he was left stranded by his centre 1 against 2 or 3, and he managed to come out and tackle ball and all the oppossition player. Excellent tackles they were.'"
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Didn't realise Leeds were the highest point scorers in the League with 160 points. Warrington second on 129. Unfortunately only the bottom 3 and Bradford have conceded more!
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Huaraki, Kirke, JJB and Ablett's stats are very impressive, great effort from the whole pack though.
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| Quote ="sussexrhino"Didn't realise Leeds were the highest point scorers in the League with 160 points. Warrington second on 129. Unfortunately only the bottom 3 and Bradford have conceded more!'"
Did you see some of Bradford's tackling on the Super League show? If we think we've got defensive problems (and we have), at least we know there is someone far, far worse. |
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This thread is noticable for the deafening silence from G1 re Kirke's contribution this week when he really needed to step up & be counted.
Though he did feel obliged to comment on the Singleton thread since it suited that particular argument.
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I have been critical of Kirke in previous posts although have always thought he was a good squad member. He definately stood up on friday and what the stats do not give are some of the big hits he also made
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| Don't be daft... tvoc added an extra 1 accidentally 
Anyway, it just shows how poor Salfords pack were when every starting pack member made 100+ metres and the bench were all 70+. can't say I remember seeing that before. |
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| Good response from all the pack, and for the second week Hauraki tops the metres/carry.
Occasionally GH gets it right.
And as for the deafening silence from certain bombastic posters......savour the silence people. It wont last!  |
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| Quote ="Old Feller"This thread is noticable for the deafening silence from G1 re Kirke's contribution this week when he really needed to step up & be counted.
Though he did feel obliged to comment on the Singleton thread since it suited that particular argument.'"
To be fair he did actually comment after the game on Friday that Kirke had put in a much better effort, i the absence of stats.
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Thing is with Kirke is that it won't last. Did he not get heaps of praise against Hull then only to put an average display against Quins and Wire. When Leeds are up against it he can do it, I just hope he puts in a similar performance against Saints and kicks on from there....but I do have doubts. He does have the potential to fill the boots of Kylie when he retires.
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14 errors, oh dear
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Thing is with Kirke is that it won't last. Did he not get heaps of praise against Hull then only to put an average display against Quins and Wire. When Leeds are up against it he can do it, I just hope he puts in a similar performance against Saints and kicks on from there....but I do have doubts. He does have the potential to fill the boots of Kylie when he retires.'"
Kirke is a worthy scapegoat for when Leeds lose 
I hope he can continue to justify his place in the 17.......but nobody should be exempt from de-selection after a non-performance in the hope that in the next match he can make amends, particularly if there is a more than capable "young un" waiting in the proverbial wings. |
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When (if) we have a fully fit squad Kirke drops to 6th choice prop and probably 5th/6th choice 2nd row. Is there any need to keep someone of his age on our books after his contract expires?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"To be fair he did actually comment after the game on Friday that Kirke had put in a much better effort, i the absence of stats.
To be fairer still the comments about Kirke have always been that performances like Friday happen far too rarely. Lets see if he can back it up over a few weeks before calling people out on it.'"
Thanks Gotcha.
Unlike some I didn't need to wait for the stats to support my argument. I actually watch the game. As you say I have already praised Kirke's display but, for balance, pointed out Singleton's work rate (with ball) easily eclipsed the usual Kirke "effort".
Just like the week before when I didn't need to wait for the stats thread to point out Kirke made less than 5 carries against Wire.
As others have pointed out, decent efforts from Kirke are all too rare. Optimistically the coaching staff recognise this and get him to improve or drop him.
It's not difficult to actually watch the games and form an opinion, rather than jump on the back of a stats thread. Well, it's not difficult for some.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"When (if) we have a fully fit squad Kirke drops to 6th choice prop and probably 5th/6th choice 2nd row. Is there any need to keep someone of his age on our books after his contract expires?'"
Good points J and tbh i agree especially with Ambler and hopefully Amor "stepping up" in the front row and the likes of Clarkson ,Abbo ,Hauraki and hopefully Stewart and Pitts it'll be time for Kirke and some of the other older squad members to move on. |
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Judging by the stats, if Kirke did move on, Leeds could do a lot worse than bring in Adam Neal if they're looking for a like for like replacement.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Judging by the stats, if Kirke did move on, Leeds could do a lot worse than bring in Adam Neal if they're looking for a like for like replacement.'"
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| Quote ="G1"
It's not difficult to actually watch the games and form an opinion, rather than jump on the back of a stats thread. Well, it's not difficult for some.
Yours in sport,
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 I had a similar problem last week with a Worzel Gummidge type who was also having difficulty in dealing with reality!
Although to be fair, stats are probably a tad more reliable than the chicken entrails he was useing.....
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| Quote ="Harrigan"When (if) we have a fully fit squad Kirke drops to 6th choice prop and probably 5th/6th choice 2nd row. Is there any need to keep someone of his age on our books after his contract expires?'"
That's exactly my theory too Harrigan.
I mean you're looking at JP, Kylie, Bailey, Burgess, Cross, JJB, Ali, Hauraki, Pitts, Delaney, Clarkson, Ablett, Singleton, Amor, Ambler & Kirke.
That's 16 people fighting for 8 spots (2 prop, 2 SR, max of 4 bench).
Of those, JP, Kylie, Bailey, Burgess, Ali & Kirke are all out of contact (according to the thread on here!) after 2011. I'm assuming JP & TMFMISL are shoo-ins to renew?! Kylie & Ali may well decide not to, and there's been a million and one rumours about Biffa & the Bunnies (that sounds like a kids book!).
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Both of the penalties that JJB conceeded were for dissent. I really thought, given the Quins disciplinary record over the McDermott years he would have stamped this out.
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I had a similar problem last week with a Worzel Gummidge type who was also having difficulty in dealing with reality! 
