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| There is a thread about the squad this season I appreciate but I think this season the squad looks very strong, has a good balance and we still have JP and Mags to come back mid season-ish.
We have pace, power, skill and possibly most importantly experience. We have a new ambitious coaching set-up and a number of young players who have SL experience now ready to push some of the old guard for their shirts at both SL and possibly international level.
So, with that in mind can we go this season unbeaten?
I know to some this may seem a ridiculous statement as it is such a difficult thing to do but I honestly believe with a bit of luck we are capable of doing it.
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| not a chance
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| I think this is the most optimistic post that I have ever read.
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| This tops any optimism even Remarkable Rhino could try to stump up. Well done.
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| Quote ="Fallon"There is a thread about the squad this season I appreciate but I think this season the squad looks very strong, has a good balance and we still have JP and Mags to come back mid season-ish.
We have pace, power, skill and possibly most importantly experience. We have a new ambitious coaching set-up and a number of young players who have SL experience now ready to push some of the old guard for their shirts at both SL and possibly international level.
So, with that in mind can we go this season unbeaten?
I know to some this may seem a ridiculous statement as it is such a difficult thing to do but I honestly believe with a bit of luck we are capable of doing it.'"
I cannot work out if this is a wind up or not but i don't mind biting.
If you seriously think going unbeaten through this or any other season is going to happen then I think you need to be sectioned under THe Mental Health Act
Cannot wait to see what fans of other clubs have to say when/if they come across this thread.
Things like this help us to get the tag of 'arrogant and Whinos'
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| Remove this thread.
I reckon with a bit of luck we may only lose 5 times? Every game we play against Wigan/Saints/Warrington and Hudds to some extent is a 50/50, then there is many banana skins along the way too. Thats a hell of a lot of luck!!
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| Of course we could!! Piece of cake!! I think we've as good as finished unbeaten already!!
Seriously...
No.
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| For Fallons sake, I hope we dont lose to Quins tonight
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| nope. we may have a brilliant season, but unbeaten really is unlikely
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| Even I was a bit dumbfounded by this one Fallon!!
Cheers for taking some of the heat off me for a couple of hours at least!
(To be fair, it won't be long before I come up with something equally as stupid and you'll be off the hook.)
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| Did someone mention cake?
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| I loved it last year when people said we could go the season unbeaten! It's spelled certain doom! In the end it wasn't that bad! we were crap at times but still had plenty of top days out. this post basically means we get beat tonight!
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| No team will go unbeaten this season, and even if it were to be accomplished, I've yet to see any evidence that Leeds are one of the more likely teams to do it (Wigan would be most likely IMO). You might as well ask if Cas will end up unbeaten at the end of the season.
We've not played any of the top teams yet but struggled to edge Bradford in game 1, who finished outside the 8 last season and have changed the majority of their first choice playing personnel. Look what Wigan did to them at Odsal... Leeds have a very long way to go.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"For Fallons sake, I hope we dont lose to Quins tonight
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Ha, I was thinking this as I wrote it Neil.
Ok, so, let me put this another way. game on game will you be thinking Leeds can win? I suspect for many the answer will be yes.
Sure, Wigan away etc.... will all be tough games, no doubt. But a lot of Rhinos fans will stiill be thinking 'yeah, with a bit of luck we can win this one'.
So ask yourselves, if each week you think we are capable of winning the game, how does that not translate to the ability to go all season unbeaten?
I didn't say it would be easy but this squad is good enough.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Ha, I was thinking this as I wrote it Neil.
Ok, so, let me put this another way. game on game will you be thinking Leeds can win? I suspect for many the answer will be yes.
Sure, Wigan away etc.... will all be tough games, no doubt. But a lot of Rhinos fans will stiill be thinking 'yeah, with a bit of luck we can win this one'.
So ask yourselves, if each week you think we are capable of winning the game, how does that not translate to the ability to go all season unbeaten?
I didn't say it would be easy but this squad is good enough.'"
Oh... when you put it like that....
Still no.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Ha, I was thinking this as I wrote it Neil.
Ok, so, let me put this another way. game on game will you be thinking Leeds can win? I suspect for many the answer will be yes.
Sure, Wigan away etc.... will all be tough games, no doubt. But a lot of Rhinos fans will stiill be thinking 'yeah, with a bit of luck we can win this one'.
So ask yourselves, if each week you think we are capable of winning the game, how does that not translate to the ability to go all season unbeaten?
I didn't say it would be easy but this squad is good enough.'"
Seriously...
I understand what you mean. Going into each match "There's no reason why we can't win this!".
But there's a difference between thinking we can win EACH match, and thinking we can win EVERY match.
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| I can't see why any rational person would ever think this in any scenario.
I can't see why anyone would ever think this based upon our 2 games so far given the nature of our opponents and the opponents we have yet to face.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Seriously...
I understand what you mean. Going into each match "There's no reason why we can't win this!".
But there's a difference between thinking we can win EACH match, and thinking we can win EVERY match.'"
I also understand what you mean.
That said, thinking we can win EACH match and thinking we can win EVERY match is the same thing.
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| I think it's refreshing to read.
It won't happen of course, but with all the talk of 'dads army', 'transition', '2011 is a waste of time', 'no talent coming through' etc it's nice to see pure optimism. I'll have a glass of whatever the OP's having.
No doubt it will be an unbeatable drink.
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| Quote ="Fallon"I also understand what you mean.
That said, thinking we can win EACH match and thinking we can win EVERY match is the same thing.'"
Hey, I'm trying to give you a bit of support and have a conversation with you about it instead of just berating you.
It's not though is it... it's two different questions.
1) Do I think we have a chance of beating Wigan at the DW in July? Yes.
2) Do I think we can go all season beating every team, both home and away? No.
You asked the second question. Whilst I understand the connection between the questions, and if you were to go down all the fixtures asking Question 1, I'd answer yes to each of them individually, but that doesn't constitute a "yes" to Question 2.
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| I'd love it to happen, but it won't.
Although I think that we will do very well and win at least one trophy.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Hey, I'm trying to give you a bit of support and have a conversation with you about it instead of just berating you.
It's not though is it... it's two different questions.
1) Do I think we have a chance of beating Wigan at the DW in July? Yes.
2) Do I think we can go all season beating every team, both home and away? No.
You asked the second question. Whilst I understand the connection between the questions, and if you were to go down all the fixtures asking Question 1, I'd answer yes to each of them individually, but that doesn't constitute a "yes" to Question 2.'"
Ha, ok I do see the point you're making.
But if you re-read your post you contradict yourself.
If I asked you, can we win each individual game, and you answer 'yes'. Are you not be proxy saying you believe we can go unbeaten all season?
The issue is obviosuly the consistency over the season and also avoiding a shocker of a refs decision at a virtal point or two. There are lots of pitfalls.
At face value though I do honestly believe we can go the season unbeaten. We have all the tools to do it.
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| Quote ="Fallon"
Sure, Wigan away etc.... will all be tough games, no doubt. But a lot of Rhinos fans will stiill be thinking 'yeah, with a bit of luck we can win this one'.
So ask yourselves, if each week you think we are capable of winning the game, how does that not translate to the ability to go all season unbeaten?
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I agree with your philosophy there, every game Leeds go into I will think 'Yeah we can win this one'. BUT thats the same for Saints, Wigan and Warrington when they all play each other. Saints are capable of beating Warrington tonight. Warrington are capable of beating Saints tonight. There is a big difference between 'can win and 'will win'.
Like I said with a bit of luck we may only lose about 5 games. 1 slip up against a 'lower' side and a loss each against Wigan, Saints, Warrington and Hudds...and thats with a bit of luck.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Ha, ok I do see the point you're making.
But if you re-read your post you contradict yourself.
If I asked you, can we win each individual game, and you answer 'yes'. Are you not be proxy saying you believe we can go unbeaten all season?
The issue is obviosuly the consistency over the season and also avoiding a shocker of a refs decision at a virtal point or two. There are lots of pitfalls.
At face value though I do honestly believe we can go the season unbeaten. We have all the tools to do it.'"
We'll have to keep this short because I'm sure people would rather stick hot pins in their eyes than have to read us two debating this!!
If we were to meet every Friday, and toss a coin. The first week, I'd pick Heads. The week after I'd pick Heads too. You could even say to me... "What do you think it will be in 4 Fridays time?" and I'd say Heads. I'd be no worse off picking Heads every time. If, however, you asked me... "Do I think it will be heads every week for the next 27 week?" I'd say no.
You didn't ask us to deduce the outcome of each single match as it's own entity (all winable individually), you asked us to judge all 27 of them as one event (much less possible).
Luckily for you lot... I'm finishing work now.
Hope everyone has a good match, come on Leeds and good luck Wigan!!!
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"If we were to meet every Friday, and toss a coin. The first week, I'd pick Heads. The week after I'd pick Heads too. You could even say to me... "What do you think it will be in 4 Fridays time?" and I'd say Heads. I'd be no worse off picking Heads every time. If, however, you asked me... "Do I think it will be heads every week for the next 27 week?" I'd say no.
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I'd have gone with tails myself.
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