Just seen a different angle of when Danny committed the last seconds foul on the pie player .
Just as he catches up you can clearly see his knee collapse beneath him . Looks to me like an automatic reaction to grab hold of the nearest thing to hand which just happened to be the pie.
I have had problems with a knee collapsing over the years . It is fkin agony , and trust me , It ain't voluntarily that you grab hold of the nearest thing to you .
Best angle to see it is (if Danny is running at 12 o'clock ) around 4 o'clock .. from Danny's right side , but slightly behind him if you know what I mean .
I saw it on telly . Can anyone point me in the direction of a replay from that angle on-line ?

He already had hold of the shirt, but as has been mentioned on another thread, it's perfectly plausible that his knee giving way was the reason for him pulling Carmont down. I don't for one minute believe that he would drag him down otherwise.

Professional foul or an act of desperation from a man in a moment of excruciating pain ? I will give you that he was already going for the pie . Had the leg not given way though , my opinion is that the pie would have taken a pass and Danny would have ran over him . He was reaching out ready to tackle in expectation of that pie taking the pass when the knee went .
Knee went . He grabbed .. Leeds are a load of cheating (winning) barstewards


Is there a rule regarding an involuntary professional foul ?

Danny mcguire was blatantly trying to pull Carmont down , I can't understand why he would as you say he was on his tail and would have been there to complete a tackle if he had have recieve the ball back . but as it happens he was trying to cheat nothing more nothing less !!! Leeds deserved the win on the night and Mcguire spoilt the game by commiting a proffesional foul . foolish play and unwarranted in our sport !!!

Jog off and watch it again without the tints over your eyes . I did .

....and the award for the most blinkered comments ever in the entire history of RL goes to Baldrick.

Absolutely astounding.

At least I can agree with part of that.

Both Cup games involving Leeds and Wigan this year have been great spectacles, right down to the final play.

Its funny how an incident at the end of a game gets all the hysteria attached. In most tight games there are numerous points which have a significant bearing on the result - including foul play.

I must admit to thinking it was an odd move by Danny at the time as I suspect he is much quicker than Carmont anyway. But, regardless, in the eyes of the game he pulled Carmont down. Its all irrelevant now. With the injuries and suspensions we have rcaking up I fully expect Wigan to come to town next weekend and win the one that matters.

ffs have you read this!!!! ATEOTD McGuire cheated, hurt himself in the process but Weeds go into the next round. Don't like Leeds but all this rubbish about tinted specs, get over yourselves, trying to hold himself up cos he hurt his knee

Just admit it he cheated, you have gone thru so why try hide the fact.

Hark at her...........

Indeed

Yeah it was a professional foul so what, carmont was on the half way line, he might even have knocked on. Talk about over dramatising the situation. Any other player would have done the same in that situation whoever they play for. Its happened move on.

Why we not debating tomkins kick that was alot worse but seems to have been brushed under the carpet by the RFL

Oh dear.

just watched the game back on a sky recording for the first time,and as all the wigan fans are being pedantic on here and every other available fans forum about which side was shafted and why?
then please take a look at wigan's first try on 2 minutes 39 seconds!
prior to the cross field kick to the corner,farrell clearly moves well away from the "mark" at the play the ball!
in the letter of the law should that try have been sent upstairs for the video ref to have a look at?
either way i've seen em chalked off for this self same reason?

views/opinions off this incident please

I mentioned it at the time.

Rumours going round that the rfl are investigating danny's injury and the incident

Is that because Mr McClennan asked them to?

Yes. Yes it is.

Nowt in it imo the injury was just an unlucky accident and i don't think Riddell did anything other than gob off at him on the floor.

You are right. Certain teams appear to be coached to step forward before they PTB. For Wigan the main cuprits are O'L, Richards, both Tomkins and Fielden who regularly win penalties as they move forward off the mark with arms outstretched into the retreating tackler who is then accused of obstruction. Fielden & co also have the annoying habit of still having their hands on or pushing the attacking player who is trying to PTB for which they are never penalised. Another form of cheating which Wigan have perfected.