this tread may finish before its even started cos i mayb wrong but i only saw mcshane for about 10 mins,why if i am right have someone on the bench to only play him that amount of time even more so with it being so warm out there....

Thought he was on longer than that? Could be wrong though.

I also though that we (and he) looked quite lively for the brief period he was on. A couple of lovely off-loads. Shame he didn't get brought on again later.

looked good, i thought he was on at least 20/25 mins myself

I think he came on after 30 mins and then started the 2nd half so played longer than 10 mins. He did well although maybe overused going himself near the line. He looks good at SL level and hopefully will be used more while Diskin is out.

Isn't he begining to mutate in to a Kevin Dick look-a-like ?

He's a long way off being a top drawer no9 for me yet.. he's got potential and needs a run of games but the difference between him and Buderus was huge (to be expected though in fairness).

seen him a couple of times once at quins and once at HQ playing against the Crusaders. By no means the finished article and I am sorry to say he currently reminds me of Dean Lawford!! However if he can kick on, not get stuck in Dean Lawford mode and keep improving he has the makings of a good number 9.

Apparently, Cas are monitoring him for a loan deal: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... 6374958.jp

Apparently, Cas are monitoring him for a loan deal: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... 6374958.jp

Unless the situation has changed since last week, Gary Hetherington appeared to rule out McShane being loaned out again this season.

Diskin will be unavailable for a number of weeks and any loan deal with McShane has to be for a minimum of a month ruling him unavailable for Leeds for the duration.

Not sure Castleford would be a preferable option after the Jonny Hepworth 'loan' deal went sour.

Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp Doesn't say anything about learning from Buderus but does say a lot about it being great to get first team experience. Reinforces what i've said all along, buderus has stifled his development.

Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp Doesn't say anything about learning from Buderus but does say a lot about it being great to get first team experience. Reinforces what i've said all along, buderus has stifled his development.

Quote ="Era of the Biff"Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp Doesn't say anything about learning from Buderus but does say a lot about it being great to get first team experience. Reinforces what i've said all along, buderus has stifled his development.'" Do you all so think that JJB has stifled Clarksons development? Or Bailey has stifled Amblers development?

Quote ="Era of the Biff"Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp Doesn't say anything about learning from Buderus but does say a lot about it being great to get first team experience. Reinforces what i've said all along, buderus has stifled his development.'" Do you all so think that JJB has stifled Clarksons development? Or Bailey has stifled Amblers development?

Danny Buderus stifled my development, if it wasn't for him I'd have been a star. Hundreds of other potential superstars of the game have been stifled by Danny Buderus.

Damn you Danny Buderus.

the article doesnt say that Diskin has helped or hindered so its impossible to say buderus has had a negative impact either.

Having said that i do think Buderus once hindered my progress towards the bar.

Quote ="Era of the Biff"Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp Doesn't say anything about learning from Buderus but does say a lot about it being great to get first team experience. Reinforces what i've said all along, buderus has stifled his development.'" Nothing to do with him maybe not being considered at the right level to be given a fulltime squad place at the time.

Quote ="Era of the Biff"Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp Doesn't say anything about learning from Buderus but does say a lot about it being great to get first team experience. Reinforces what i've said all along, buderus has stifled his development.'" Nothing to do with him maybe not being considered at the right level to be given a fulltime squad place at the time.

He's always in my way, everywhere I go, always there.

It's a living nightmare I tell you.

Quote ="Era of the Biff"Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp '" Was it this bit: Quote ="McShane""It is good to have that versatility," he said. "I haven't played at scrum-half for a while, but Keith (Senior) and Kirkey (Ian Kirke) helped me a lot" '"

Quote ="Era of the Biff"Some interesting comments from him here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6366521.jp '" Was it this bit: Quote ="McShane""It is good to have that versatility," he said. "I haven't played at scrum-half for a while, but Keith (Senior) and Kirkey (Ian Kirke) helped me a lot" '"

LOL at those falling over themselves to defend Buderus and their comments that he was brought over to aid McShanes development again.

At least we now know why Kirke's in the squad. He's aiding McShane's development.....

I can see what McShane said in the article provided, unfortunately I can't see what he didn't say in reference to Buderus or Diskin.

However he did say:



Wouldn't Danny Buderus be classed as a senior player?

Lol at you for thinking you've won an argument based on something that someone didn't say

Laughing harder at you though.

Mcshane mentions the Hull move as being key as he got first team games, something he couldnt get at Leeds because we'd brought over an overpaid, over the hill hooker to block his path to the first team.
There have been number of comments on here that McShane would benefit from Buderus as Buderus would pass on his vast knowledge. All well and good but patently untrue if McShane was training and playing for Hull. He makes no reference to learning anything from Buderus, preferring to highlight first team games as important ot him. First team games that were being denied him at Leeds.

It's becoming tiresome having to explain things to those who do not have the thought capacity to think outside the box.

It's also pretty tiresome for the rest of us having to listen to your anti-Buderus comments all the time...

You appear to have me confused with someone who gives a F*** about what anyone thinks.

It's a tough ask having to educate pork day in day out.

Danny Buderus developed my stifle. It was quite enjoyable.