OPTA Stats V Wakefield (H)

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tvoc Posted: June 7 2010 6:38 pm

Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties

Leeds: 1346 - 210 (6.41) - 297 - 18 (94%) - 15 - 8

Webb: 58 - 12 (4.83) - 6 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 2

Donald: 73 - 7 (10.43) - 1 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Delaney: 112 - 14 (8.00) - 22 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Smith: 48 - 11 (4.36) - 18 - 3 (86%) - 1 - 1
Hall: 59 - 10 (5.90) - 2 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0

Sinfield: 90 - 18 (5.00) - 20 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
McGuire: 99 - 22 (4.50) - 9 - 1 (90%) - 2 - 0

Leuluai: 79 - 10 (7.90) - 11 - 3 (79%) - 2 - 0
Buderus: 63 - 12 (5.25) - 27 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 0
Kirke: 68 - 8 (8.50) - 29 - 2 (94%) - 1 - 1
Pitts: 39 - 6 (6.50) - 21 - 1 (95%) - 1 - 0
Ablett: 80 - 13 (6.15) - 27 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 2
Jones-Buchanan: 65 - 10 (6.50) - 16 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0

Senior: 56 - 10 (5.60) - 25 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Diskin: 44 - 10 (4.40) - 15 - 2 (88%) - 0 - 1
Eastwood: 71 - 9 (7.89) - 14 - 4 (78%) - 2 - 0
Peacock: 242 - 28 (8.64) - 34 - 1 (97%) - 1 -1

I'm sure I don't need to draw attention to Jamie Peacock's stats there

Try Assists:

Kevin Sinfield - Danny McGuire try
Carl Ablett - Jamie Jones-Buchanan try
Brent Webb - Scott Donald try
Kevin Sinfield - Danny Buderus try

Previous Rounds:
Crusaders (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=444197
Castleford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=444160
Wakefield (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=445241
Salford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446124
Harlequins (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=447962
Huddersfield (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=448906
Hull KR (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449954
Wigan (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=450842
Bradford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=451765
Les Catalans (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=452156
Hull (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=452863
St Helens (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=454630
Wakefield (N) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=455376
Warrington (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=456928
Bradford (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=457737

Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties

Wakefield: 1219 - 174 (7.01) - 318 - ? (??%) - 18 - 8

Murphy: 57 - 11 (5.18 ) - 10 - 1 (91%) - 1 - 0

Blanch: 74 - 9 (8.22) - 4 - 1 (80%) - 1 - 0
Gleeson: 28 - 5 (5.60) - 19 - 0 (100%) - 2 - 0
Demetriou: 157 - 20 (7.85) - 28 - 1 (97%) - 3 - 1
George: 71 - 8 (8.88 ) - 2 - 1 (67%) - 0 - 0

Cooke: 44 - 10 (4.40) - 22 - ? (??%) - 1 - 0
Obst: 50 - 8 (6.25) - 26 - 1 (96%) - 2 - 1

King: 78 - 14 (5.57) - 24 - 3 (89%) - 1 - 1
Leo-Latu: 63 - 11 (5.73) - 12 - 1 (92%) - 3 - 1
Moore: 87 - 9 (9.67) - 16 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Johnson: 41 - 6 (6.83) - 13 - 1 (93%) - 0 - 0
Kirmond: 113 - 15 (7.53) - 25 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 1
Morrison: 110 - 11 (10.00) - 52 - 1 (98%) - 0 - 1

Jeffries: 10 - 3 (3.33) - 11 - 0 (100%) - 2 - 0
Blaymire: 43 - 10 (4.30) - 6 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Henderson: 86 - 13 (6.62) - 29 - 2 (94%) - 1 - 2
Korkidas: 109 - 11 (9.91) - 19 - 1 (95%) - 0 -0

Paul Cooke's stats are the balance between the other 16 Wakefield players combined and Wakefield's team stats.

Opta (on the SL website) are still showing Paul Cooke as a Hull KR player and not updating his weekly totals.

Excluding Paul Cooke's tackling stats leaves a team total of 296 with 15 misses for 95% effectiveness.

Glenn Morrison's stats are very impressive - only spoilt by his professional foul and 9 minutes spent in the sin-bin. Likewise Jason Demetriou only spoiled by his handling errors.

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RossRhino Posted: June 7 2010 6:50 pm

Holy jesus christ. Peacock is a monster.

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LS14 RHINO Posted: June 7 2010 7:03 pm

Diskin made an error as soon as he came on, the first run he made he knocked on and then his first tackle he gave a penalty away so his error stat is definately wrong. 1 error and 1 penalty from the first 2 minutes he was on the field, not sure if he made anymore.

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Sam Buca Posted: June 7 2010 7:13 pm

Ian Kirke

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BillyRhino Posted: June 7 2010 7:14 pm

I've had enough of hearing about Disco today, so I'll happily pass on that one.

What stands out for me are Delaney's stats. I know the lad is a grafter, but that was an excellent shift he put in on Friday night.

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tvoc Posted: June 7 2010 7:34 pm

Quote ="LS14 RHINO"Diskin made an error as soon as he came on, the first run he made he knocked on and then his first tackle he gave a penalty away so his error stat is definately wrong. 1 error and 1 penalty from the first 2 minutes he was on the field, not sure if he made anymore.'"

Looking at the 8 penalties Leeds conceded

Opta have marked them against:
2 - Webb, Ablett
1 - Smith, Kirke, Diskin, Peacock

I noted:
3 - Webb (High Tackle, Obstruction Involving Pitts, Dissent)
2 - Ablett (Flop, Ball Steal)
1 - Diskin (Hand In PTB), Sinfield (Obstruction Involving Peacock), Unknown (77th minute Offside)

On the Errors: Opta have found 2 more than I did overall but when you break them down individually you find (or at least I did) that Webb, Pitts, Senior and Eastwood have one extra and Diskin and McGuire one fewer than I expected.

It's why I take the time to summarise and publish Leeds' Opta figures each week.

People love to quote Opta in arguments and point scoring debates on here but when you examine them in weekly segments (where you can relate them to actual performances) they don't always stack up.

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The Magic Wand Posted: June 7 2010 8:44 pm

I have had enough of the Diskin debate, safe to say I love you all and 44m is pathetic.

No further comment your honor............

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Sherbert Dip Posted: June 7 2010 8:51 pm

Anyone else scan down the stats and say 'Feckin hell' when they came to JP???

Shame we can't clone him!!!

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thebloodbath Posted: June 8 2010 7:38 am

Quote ="Sherbert Dip"Anyone else scan down the stats and say 'Feckin hell' when they came to JP???'"

No.

I watched the game and saw then what a huge performance it was.

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Tony Soprano Posted: June 8 2010 8:51 am

I said earlier that I thought Peacock was great on friday but I'm gonna take those 242m with a pinch of salt, sounds too good to be true.

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tvoc Posted: June 8 2010 10:26 am

Quote ="Tony Soprano"I said earlier that I thought Peacock was great on friday but I'm gonna take those 242m with a pinch of salt, sounds too good to be true.'"

According to Terry O'Connor on Boots 'N All The Tries last night Peacock made over 250 meters.

I imagine Sky have access to the full Opta statistical output rather than the stripped down version we get to see via the SL website that struggled to report the penalty count accurately this week missing a Wakefield indescretion altogether.

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Gotcha Posted: June 8 2010 10:30 am

Quote ="tvoc"I noted:
3 - Webb (High Tackle, Obstruction Involving Pitts, Dissent)'"

I might be wrong here, but I thought this was reported on last season or season before. That Dissent although marched another 10 yards is not recorded as additional penalty, on either an individual or a team stats.

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tvoc Posted: June 8 2010 11:27 am

It was discussed on here and IIRC it was relatively proved that the additional penalty for dissent is counted but that Opta can make mistakes.

This week, by my records, Leeds were penalised a total of 8 times in total:

32 seconds - Ablett - Flop
21 minutes - Sinfield/Peacock - Obstruction (In Possession)
31 minutes - Diskin - Hand in the PTB
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48 minutes - Ablett - Ball Steal
53 minutes - Webb - High tackle
64 minutes - Webb/Pitts - Obstruction (In Possession)
64 minutes - Webb - Dissent
77 minutes - Kirke - Not Square At The PTB

Previously and without review I'd stated the following on the basis that I knew there was something wrong without nailing it down.

Quote ="tvoc"Looking at the 8 penalties Leeds conceded

Opta have marked them against:
2 - Webb, Ablett
1 - Smith, Kirke, Diskin, Peacock

I noted:
3 - Webb (High Tackle, Obstruction Involving Pitts, Dissent)
2 - Ablett (Flop, Ball Steal)
1 - Diskin (Hand In PTB), Sinfield (Obstruction Involving Peacock), Unknown (77th minute Offside)
'"

So on review no issues with the counts against Ablett (2) and Diskin.

The 'Unknown 77th minute Offside' penalty was in fact awarded against Kirke (according to Sky for not standing square) which I can accept.

Leeds were penalised twice for crossing while in possession, the first time involving Sinfield with ball in hand and Peacock offering support/dummy run. Opta have gone against the dummy runner in this case where I went against the ball carrier. Fair enough I'm not going to fall out over the different interpretation there, each to their own when apportioning blame.

However on the second occurrence Webb ran behind (or at least was penalised for running behind) Leeds number 20 - Jay Pitts. For Opta (given their previous ruling) to remain consistent they should of marked against Pitts. They erroneously appear to have marked against Lee Smith instead.

That does then at least clear up the Webb count of two penalties being for the high tackle and the dissent.

In addition Wakefield were penalised a total of 9 times by Ian Smith, the comparison of the Wakefield team Opta stats from before and after the game only increased by 8 as did the counts against the individual players, excluding Paul Cooke whose stats have not been updated since he left Craven Park.

Life shouldn't be this difficult. Why can't Opta just get it right. It's not rocket science.

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Andy Gilder Posted: June 8 2010 12:15 pm

Quote ="Tony Soprano"I said earlier that I thought Peacock was great on friday but I'm gonna take those 242m with a pinch of salt, sounds too good to be true.'"

Was it four goal-line drop outs Leeds forced?

Three of those IIRC Peacock had the first carry off the catch which represent cheap metres and will distort the stats somewhat.

Even with those added in though, still only marginally more metres per carry than the great jelly-kneed softcock, eh Gareth?

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