I appreciate that individual games have been analysed to death. I also appreciate it is ridiculously early to consider the situation as a blip and nothing more.

But what is the general concensus on both games from the terraces? I would imagine nearly all would have expected tough games as both are derby type games, but in all honesty, I would have expected Leeds to win both.

I don't recall Leeds being slow starters, in fact your consistency in the league is to be heralded. Are Leeds approaching this season with different techniques than previous seasons?

Whay say you?

Nothing at all, we have played worse than this in each of the last 3 seasons at some point.

My best guesstimate is that its incredibly difficult to be mentally 'up' for defending the title at the beginning of the year after having won it three on the bounce. Its generally held that retaining a title is far more difficult than winning it in the first place for this reason. I presume it gets far tougher each year.

I think the side struggled with it last year when there were a number of games where performance wasn't quite there, & discipline seemed poor but they were able to raise themselves for the business end.

Meh!

i say come play off time we will be the team nobody wants to play

Wakefield and Castleford both made the play-offs in 2009 and often (usually) give Leeds a tough fixture anyway in what is a big fixture for them.

Never mind offering opinion, get to work on the stats update.

Yes Sir. Sorry Sir.

I'll get right on with it now.

Theres a good chap.

tvoc do you get 'a time in possession' stat from opta?

PS. While we have missed you over the last two days, you have been better off away... trust me!

Has he got you fagging again TVOC?

He'll be nailing you to the wall on St Tadger's Day next.

I've come a long way from Graybridge, where I was lucky to get a 'you dismally untalented little creep' from G1 the school bully.



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No doubt. An attack of the 24 hour flu in my case. Struck down on Sunday evening after the loss at Belle Vue. I had to tell myself to get a grip, it's only two points.

And so the sequence goes on, Leeds have never won and Wakefield have never lost with that referee in charge.

I say indifferent is a massive understatement. Try terrible, disastrous, embarrassing, they are all nearer the mark.

I'm glad it's at this end of the season, can't imagine what it must be like to have a terrible, disastrous, embarrassing end to the season at OT when it really matters.

your just our grand final bitches!

Not really we've lost to 2 play off teams whereas you were humilliated against a bottom 3 side at home.
Which resulted in some quality threads re-yer coach and team!

KAPOW

Pinner handed his ar[is[/ie.

the tools never learn do they?

You didn't go to the '05 GF then?

Is that the one were you brought in outside help to give your flagging pack a push?

Edited for accuracy

It is a long season. Plus it probably will take a while for the competitive juices to get flowing having won 3 on the trot. Leeds will definitely be 'up' for the WCC - we've all read things that clearly suggest the players' minds aren't entirely focused on the league with that coming up - and I suspect we'll have an almighty effort at the Challenge Cup as well.

One thing that also shouldn't be overlooked is that this year a whole batch of clubs look to have improved on last year. That makes it very unlikely you'll have a top two by as big a margin as in previous years. Nobody was going to get through this year with just one or two losses.

So you're happy with 1 win from 3 with the 1 unconvincing win coming against the team that were bottom by miles last year? According to another thread on here your early season games were going to be so easy that people were almost embarrassed at that way the RFL were "spoon feeding" you a nice gentle build up to the WCC.

It's good to see the Saints fans back now that they have finished booing and recorded a victory over the high flying Bulls. Is it the fact they managed to score more than 10 points in one game that is making them so giddy.