Does anyone know if we still have the same group of full-time refs for next season. Someone please tell me Terry Albert has been demoted to some grass roots level. Anyone think Jamie Leahy or the other guy who did a lot of the NL TV games will be given more SL games?

I think that jamie leahy would be well worth being promoted to the super league list of referees,theres no chance of halibut being demoted tho'

Do the RFL not review performances?

Shame no one can review the RFL

Alibert was only here for a year, was he not?

I hope that's true! Will we see Thaler again? Didn't see him a lot towards the end of last season.

FFS it's the 1st week of January



it was his 1st year up last year. Judge him on this season.

Lets just hope for consistency and improvement next season.

Lets just hope fans and coaches focus a little less on the referees shortcomings and more on their own teams shortcomings this season.

I know of no other sport where the supporters are so fixated wit hthe referees.

I hope that we see ALOT more of Thaler next year.

Soccer possibly?
I know he's not a spectator but Ferguson again had a go yesterday at the ref over the added time at the end of the game. The ref allowed 5 minutes Ferguson as usual when his side is losing moaned that it wasn't enough.
He'd have been better concentrating on why his team failed to score in the preceding 90 minutes.
I hope he gets fined &/or banned again for his comments. But it's just water off a duck's back to him.

We should in that case.

But what will Steve Mc do??????

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Bradford will get robbed and Leeds will get all the calls again as they always do.

Brent Webb's 'knock on' last year at Easter v Bulls. Given by Mr Alibert, I believe, as video ref. This was never in a million years a knock on. It did not touch the ground or a member of the opposing team. May have been a forward pass but the VR cannot call on that.

Screwed us over good and proper.

That's all well and good and i mostly agree but imo they ALL still need to improve their consistency from Cummings down.

They do, so do the players, so do the coaches. We're too fixated on referees and fans often focus on them rather than the shortcomings of their own players/coaches.

Referees error rates are usually much, much lower than players and commentators.

and most fans and commentators have only a very very basic understanding or knowledge of the rules.

TBF though, how many times have we seen identicle/similar incidents that have resulted in completely the opposite decisions in the past?

EG:
players that knock the ball backwards<facing their own posts> only to be pulled up for a knock on

only to be be contradicted by the try in the World club Challenge game between Saints and the Roosters, whereby a player knocked the ball forward,but wasn't looking at the player he was tackling only to be awarded a try!

So who knows whats going with the rules on match day in the stands,never mind the commentary box?

All the refs are absolutely useless – games would be freer flowing and far mare entertaining if we did away with them altogether.

How many time have you been watching a game and for some reason or another the ref blows his whistle and the game comes to a complete standstill?

One of the daftest ideas the RFL have come up with and as long as they maintain this ridiculous idea that there needs to be some kind of governing representative on the pitch the longer our entertainment will be marred.

Naturally we are biased in favour of our players rather than the referee and his assistants - however - there are times where it is difficult to understand why a series of decisions are made.

As I recollect, in the middle of a match part-way through last season Kevin Sinfield had to ask the referee why Leeds were being penalised and then asked what was different that we did compared to the opposition - who were not being penalised. The same point was made by Brian McClennan in a couple of post-match interviews.

Incidentally, I thought that it was JJB who "knocked on" the ball in mid-air. A ball that came from a player in front of him and was caught by a player behind him - how can this be??

In the same match Brent Web "scored" and then had it disallowed for a very dubious offside call - the same situation being seen in many matches and never penalised - except for that one.

Referees make mistakes - far fewer than fans or certain commentators might believe - but they do make them. They also have to make calls on 50/50 situations where each set of fans will see them as 80/20s (in their club's favour) and I'm sure there are various 50/50s that fans of all clubs could point to where they'll claim they're hard done by.

There is too much focus of referees in general, and there are always certain referees that are 'assessed' differently by fans.

Referees are really annoying.
You spend the whole game complaining about their crap decisions & bias against your team only to get home, watch the game again on TV & see that they were right nearly all the time.
They generally make far fewer mistakes than the players.