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He seems rather ambitious in that article and probably has a good shot. This might be the end of Ryan Bailey as we know it because someone younger is coming in. After all not many people rate Bailey but rate Pitts..
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He seems rather ambitious in that article and probably has a good shot. This might be the end of Ryan Bailey as we know it because someone younger is coming in. After all not many people rate Bailey but rate Pitts..
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| Ask Bluey next time you're at hq mate!
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Ask Bluey next time you're at hq mate!'"
Won't Bluey have left after a long, successful run next time he's at HQ?
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| Well with Peacock and Kylie in the twilight of their careers I think Pitts and Bailey will be playing in the same 17 within 2 years.
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| With Blueys rotation policy for next season there's plenty of room within the squad for both of them so it's not an issue imo.
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| Personally, I think Amor will overtake both of them in the pecking order very quickly
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Personally, I think Amor will overtake both of them in the pecking order very quickly'"
That's a big call AG especially given how Bailey finished the season after coming back from injury.
Either way the club should benefit from the added competition for places.
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| Give Pitt a few seasons and I reckon he will take over from Bailey. For the moment though I do reckon Pitt will be seen on the bench regular.
As for Armor, I agree. 2/3 season down the line and he will be in the starting line pretty often.
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| I think the point is that give Pitt a few seasons and he'll take over from Peacock or Leuluai. Bailey will still be there.
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| Typical Southstander over reaction. One decent performance in a boxing day friendly and he's already ahead of 4 time GF winner and international Bailey.
The lad puts in a poor game and the same over reactors will be shouting for him to be dropped.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/rugby-league-headlines/Leeds-Rhinos-Pitts-I-want.5942150.jp
He seems rather ambitious in that article and probably has a good shot. This might be the end of Ryan Bailey as we know it because someone younger is coming in. After all not many people rate Bailey but rate Pitts..'" I think you'll find the one who selects the team rates Bailey.
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| Difficult i rate Pitts a a quality youngster but Bailey doesnt become a 4 time gf winner without having quality. When Bailey is on form i think he is amazing its just that he's inconsistant. But agree with Rhinoms there is space for both with the rotation system.
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| Quote ="G1"Typical Southstander over reaction. One decent performance in a boxing day friendly and he's already ahead of 4 time GF winner and international Bailey.
The lad puts in a poor game and the same over reactors will be shouting for him to be dropped.'"
Particularly given I didn't even have him in my top 3 Leeds forwards on Boxing Day to be honest. Decent performance but nothing spectacular.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Personally, I think Amor will overtake both of them in the pecking order very quickly'" I've a feeling you could be spot on.I know it was only his first run out but he certainly impressed me.
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| Quote ="G1"Typical Southstander over reaction. One decent performance in a boxing day friendly and he's already ahead of 4 time GF winner and international Bailey.
The lad puts in a poor game and the same over reactors will be shouting for him to be dropped.'"
All young players at Leeds will be world class - until they move on having not made the grade at which point their status will change to 'never rated him - he's rubbish'.
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| Just remember Damo the success since '04 has been with Bailey as part of that squad. Every cup we have won he has played in those games. Why dismiss him so quickly over someone who has played 1 game for us?? And if your judging on academy games - how come Danny Allen isnt a superstar????
But over the next 5 years we will need to replace the backbone: Webb/McGuire/Burrow/Sinfield and more immediately Peacock + Senior. Interesting times ahead.
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| Quote ="G1"Typical Southstander over reaction. '"
What?? Really??? Never!!!!
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Just remember Damo the success since '04 has been with Bailey as part of that squad. Every cup we have won he has played in those games. Why dismiss him so quickly over someone who has played 1 game for us?? And if your judging on academy games - how come Danny Allen isnt a superstar????
But over the next 5 years we will need to replace the backbone: Webb/[uMcGuire/Burrow/Sinfield [/uand more immediately Peacock + Senior. Interesting times ahead.'"
IMO that will be the major challenge for the club's management.
For Webb we have BJB & for Senior one of Watkins/Coady.
For Peacock one or more of Amor, Pitts, Burgess.
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| The club is aware of this. Has anyone read "the History Makers"? Got it for Xmas and whilst a little bit self congratulatory in tone it provides a fantastic insight into how the club is run, top to bottom.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Just remember Damo the success since '04 has been with Bailey as part of that squad. Every cup we have won he has played in those games. Why dismiss him so quickly over someone who has played 1 game for us?? And if your judging on academy games - how come Danny Allen isnt a superstar????'"
You’ll be surprised that I’m a Ryan Bailey fan and defended him many a time on the virtual terrace. All I‘m doing is asking for peoples opinion. The might I mentioned is just the realm of possibility. Even I doubt Jay Pitts will over take him but someone out they must!
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| Quote ="G1"The club is aware of this. Has anyone read "the History Makers"? Got it for Xmas and whilst a little bit self congratulatory in tone it provides a fantastic insight into how the club is run, top to bottom.'"
Yep, I did the decent thing at xmas and bought it for my dad and then proceeded to read it before he's had a chance to even pick it up.
As you say it is a bit self congratulatory but after 3 Grand Final wins in a row I can look past that, and is interesting in seeing how they're trying to generate an ethos at the club. Hetherington has to be praised for his player signings in recent years, since 99% of them seem to have fit perfectly into that strategy.
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| Those that are calling Bailey a 4 time GF winner miss the point that there were 16 other players helped him reach that point. I would like to see Bailey become as crucial as Peacock and gain another international cap years after his last one. His position is up for grabs unlike many of the youth squad that he grew up with. Consistency is the name of the game for Ryan.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Consistency is the name of the game for Ryan.'"
Yes it is.
Consistently selected for every trophy winning game we have won since '04.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Yes it is.
Consistently selected for every trophy winning game we have won since '04.'"
Still doesn't command a starting place after 6yrs. No international caps since 04. The instigator of this debate has put forward the question as to whether his place in the squad is in question. With the level of competition that we now have as opposed to previous years the question is legitimate.
We'll see who's proved right.
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Still doesn't command a starting place after 6yrs. No international caps since 04. The instigator of this debate has put forward the question as to whether his place in the squad is in question. With the level of competition that we now have as opposed to previous years the question is legitimate.
We'll see who's proved right.'"
Well let's judge him in his last performance then???
Seems fair.
"No international caps since 04"
Really????
I command that your wrong. Also got a few caps for England after the caps he earnt in 04.
The question is legitimate. You haven't ruffled my sensibilties. Ryan Bailey - been de-valued and over looked for players who haven't even earnt more than 1 senior game for us, is frankly laughable against the multi title winner. Even if the thread is posed in 'theoretical question' medium - I would be be more selective about the questions I ask.
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