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| Warrington were very unlucky I think, but credit to both teams.
Sinfield showed nerves of steel at the end there.
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| ref was bloody awful
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| Quote ="Wheels"Warrington were very unlucky I think, but credit to both teams.
Sinfield showed nerves of steel at the end there.'"
Was a shocking game over 20 handling errors and 15 penalties, the end somewhat made up for it.
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| I nearly fell asleep. It was only the fact that Rhinos were playing I pulled through to the end of the game without a nap.
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| Am not 100% sure, but think we might have won the penalty count?!! And that against a team coached by someone who supposedly instills more discipline than our current coach (yeah, I know, over the course of the season their discipline's probably been way better than ours, but ironic nonetheless.....)
By the way, huge game from Donald tonight I thought, especially after coming in for a hell of a lot of criticsm recently. Even before the last munte try he'd made at least 3 huge plays - his first try, his long break upfield to set up the start of our comeback, and the defensive play from Briers' kick. With the last minute try that's 4 big, big plays - each of which contributed massively to us winning this game.
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| Quote ="HyperbolicRhino"Am not 100% sure, but think we might have won the penalty count?!! '"
My gut feeling is we lost it again ... 6-7 ... but I'm sure a statto will be along soon ....
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| Tough match that but we got there in the end!
Wire opened us up too easily at times but the lads dug in and it was a relief to see sinny get his kicking boots back on!
When burrow was through second half and smith gave a penalty what was it for??????
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| Quote ="rhinoms"When burrow was through second half and smith gave a penalty what was it for??????'" ref had got to the stage of make anything up by that point. so could have been for anything
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| Not too bothered about the result.
I'm more concerned about whether we won the penalty count!!!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Tough match that but we got there in the end!
Wire opened us up too easily at times but the lads dug in and it was a relief to see sinny get his kicking boots back on!
When burrow was through second half and smith gave a penalty what was it for??????'"
It was for obstruction, again.
Its a bloody flimsy rule.. our try should have been given and the one you are on about was borderline too.
Ref missed loads.
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| I'm guessing obstruction - was probably a 50-50 call.
Some curious decisions tonight - the try we had disallowed for Smith's challenge from the bomb was a bit harsh I thought, but their disallowed try a few minutes later for Disking supposedly being obstructed was, if anything, even harsher, so they probably cancelled each other out.
I thought Leeds' discipline was a lot better tonight - don't mind being pulled for the odd high tackle, main plus for me tonight was that there was very little backchat, and only one or two penalties (??) for lying on - much improved! It also seems to me that Warrington got away with quite a bit more than we did, but I may just have had the blinkers on
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| Quote ="HyperbolicRhino"I'm guessing obstruction - was probably a 50-50 call.
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Not for obstruction..Clark was off side. Attacking players have to be behind the play the ball.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"It was for obstruction, again.
Its a bloody flimsy rule.. our try should have been given and the one you are on about was borderline rubbish too.
Ref missed loads.'"
Oh right i saw him stop the play but didn't see what he signalled for!
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| For me, that was our most boring game all season, too many players, with Senior in particular appearing to be right off the pace in the last couple of games.It was only some outstanding individual efforts which allowed us to pinch the points.
We've played our "get of jail card" a hell of a lot this season, and fair play to the team for going for the full 80 mins, but I'm starting to have a few doubts as to how long our luck is going to hold.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Not for obstruction..Clark was off side. Attacking players have to be behind the play the ball.
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Was he buggery, that try should have stood IMO.
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| Paper over cracks time again. Everyones happy with the result but the best team lost. Our defence is shocking and the pack too lightweight. Boy do we miss Ellis.
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| Quote ="S"Paper over cracks time again. Everyones happy with the result but the best team lost. Our defence is shocking and the pack too lightweight. Boy do we miss Ellis.'"
How did the best team lose??
We scored 5 tries to 4 had as many clean breaks as them and as much possession!
It was a tough match and we came away with the win do you expect 50-0 every week??????
Yeh we made mistakes and got opened up but so did they and considering our pack played with a prop down for over a half i thought they gave their all and matched the wire pack.
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| senior was tied up with no space, the reason being buderus has the outside backs running at space with quick accurate distribution, webb seemed to notice this and was at acting half more than diskin, think leeds might miss the over the hill money grabbing aussie hooker more than most anticipate.
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| Quote ="mps"senior was tied up with no space, the reason being buderus has the outside backs running at space with quick accurate distribution, webb seemed to notice this and was at acting half more than diskin, think leeds might miss the over the hill money grabbing aussie hooker more than most anticipate.'"
I thought Diskin improved in the second half but he doesn't get us rolling forward the way Buderus does and we will miss him massively.
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| Quote ="S"Paper over cracks time again. Everyones happy with the result but the best team lost. Our defence is shocking and the pack too lightweight. Boy do we miss Ellis.'"
I think 'relieved' would be more apt.
No one can say it was a good performance and that winning hides the fact we were poor.
We did outscore them btw, it's not as if we won solely because of missed conversions.
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| Quote ="S"Paper over cracks time again. Everyones happy with the result but the best team lost. Our defence is shocking and the pack too lightweight. Boy do we miss Ellis.'"
What ''cracks''?
It's become a cliche to say it because of the sky commentators but this season for me has seen a sudden spurt in the evening up of the competition.
If sinfield misses that conversion hudds stay 2nd..........with 4 rounds to go.
Teams like hudds often start well then fall back into the pack pretty fast. But this season is different.
The only difference in the sky games this weekend has been that leeds and saints have had that winning instinct.
In fact leeds have relied very heavily on that this season as do saints at times (i find saints tend to be winning their games more comfortably than leeds), but you can only rely on it so long.
Sooner or later saints and leeds will be knocked from their perch and it really will be anyones league. Hell it could easily happen this season with the new play off format.
So what are those cracks?
Warrington stifled our play for large periods, we occasionally got the upper hand.
People are going to see less and less champaigne rugby and more and more close tense arm wrestles like we saw tonight.
So don't put it on leeds, ''what's wrong with leeds, papering over the cracks'' etc etc. Other teams are just getting better.
Get used to it.
We've had 3 titles in 5 years with 4 grand final appearences in that time. Our time will soon end.
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| We are kirke and Bailey down at the moment they may not be the best in the world, but their two good squad players, tonight in the second half we were much better and deserved the win IMHO. Donald not just for his tries was very good. After last weeks defeat it was inportant we bounced back and thankfully we got the resulticon_smile.gif I know sinnys kicks were difficult but had he kick them we'd have one by 8. But m sure everyones agrees we need to improve and I'm sure we can
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| Warringtons defence was solid. But in the first half i thought many alot of the plays we knocked on about 70% of them were ripped out without the ref seing them but on all accounts a good win.
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| I will forgive both sides the awful handling as a LOT of rain fell today. The match was scrappy but no more so than last nights Wigan Saints game.
Donald was superb. His break changed the course of the game and it was superb skill to ground the ball for his 1st.
Our failure to stop Monaghan out of dummy half was criminal and the cause of all four Wire tries. Mclennan should have them working on marker defence for the next two weeks.
I notice Mclennan adopted a tactic I mentioned on here last week of using a centre on the bench as an interchange for a 2nd rower by moving Senior into the pack twice. Ratu looked very solid. Fairly impressed.
Hall looks lacking in confidence at the moment. Not sure why. Running into the collision very tentatively (notice those that slate Donald for this have NEVER ONCE slated Hall) and returning his kicks sideways!
A quick mention about Simon Worrall. The lad played very well but that is not why I mention him. I notice Mclennan managed to get him on this week nice and early and avoided leaving himself in the position he was last week of chasing the game late and needing his game-breakers on. However, When Warrington scored their last try and were down by two with a few minutes left Bluey brought him on which makes his comments about last Friday pretty ridiculous.
Thank goodness Sinfield found his kicking boots in the end. What nerves! We look ready for the break and there's still work to be done but everything is looking on course, no need for the negative comments by some on here.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"How did the best team lose??
We scored 5 tries to 4 had as many clean breaks as them and as much possession!
It was a tough match and we came away with the win do you expect 50-0 every week??????
Yeh we made mistakes and got opened up but so did they and considering our pack played with a prop down for over a half i thought they gave their all and matched the wire pack.'"
If you think Leeds were the better team you are even more blinkered than I thought and thats saying something.
Leeds were shocking tonight, Warrington were garbage as well but better than Leeds in pretty much all areas.
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