............by not playing Worral???

I think so.

Im followinghis comments in yesterdays Yorkshire Sport where he said 'he couldn't get him on'.

Basically he felt he needed more experience out there and he named JJB and Ali as the prefferd ones.

I think he missed a trick, I doubt it would have turned the game either way, but mid second half Leeds desperately needed some fresh legs and an injection of pace. Worral could offer that, he's no slouch.

And Ali was kept well in check all night and JJB could have given away more penalties!!

It's deffo a 17 man game these. And we should have used all playing options.

My underlying feeling is if they are good enough to be in the 17, they should play. Otherwise you handicapping yourself to a team of 16.

And its not as though Worral is an out and out rookie, not years of experience, he could have come on and offered somehing. And it turns out that what was on the pitch didn't turn it round.

Or you could look at it as if Bluey is using experience as a smoke screen. Well he's had no problem playing Ratu or Manning for example......

he missed a trick bringing DB off.

I'm all for rotating the hooker but when he's the best player on the field i feel you need to keep him on.

His Record agasint Smith in the games that count is ok so i'm not too bothered about Fridays result but Watkins and Gibson should be surly wondering why they were not playing.

also while some of the responsiblity does lie on the coach he can't be blammed for the needless penalties given away.

as for Worral - i dont think he's good enough to be honeset!

On this point I disagree.

He has to discipline the team to stick to the game plan.

And these daft penalties are hardly a rare thing, it is our biggest flaw as a team.

Now its the coaches job to quantify this and neutralise the problem.

He hasn't and it looks like a problem that isn't going to go away quickly.

He needs to solve this ASAP. I know he doesn't literally have control of JJb when he gives a daft penalty away, but he has to hit the message home!

it's crippling us and we are our own biggest enemy.

I agree to a point but...

Bluey isnt stupid surley he knows it's a problem so you'de hope he's addressed it, if he has and the players are still giving stupid pens away they should either be dropped or finned in my opinion

that or he isnt addressing it and if thats the case he shouldnt be coaching at the top level.

There appears to be an almighty assumption here that McClennan doesn't punish offenders already.

The option of dropping an errant player isn't really there given the weaknesses in the present squad he has to work with.

He's dropped Watkins and Gibson for what seems to be nothing so....

no issue with not using the full 17, all the players should be fit enough to 1-2 men down (team in the NRL, dragons? was regularly winning only using 15 players in the first half of the season). if the coach doesn't think its a good move to bring on worrall then fair does, but with this line of thinking. it does make me wonder why on earth he's replacing buderus with diskin at times. seems very much like trying to give them both the same game time, rather then based on how they are playing

What about Bailey??

Is there a story here???

Dropped or just not selected?

Neither are part of the first choice seventeen this season so are liable to play only as cover for injury absences.

What about when a team is well under the cosh and looking 'leggy'?????

Ankle injury apparently.

If it's a story you're after why is Brent Webb's current injury unspecified and clouded by patient confidentiality?

I don't think I've heard that one before very often.

Webb - Part of the CIA ???

Bailey - Apparently walking fine, according to Mrs Bloodbath.

Following Wakefield's loss to Cas John Kear was understandably concerned over the number of penalies they gave away - in kickable positions. He said this is something they can sort out quickly and it will be addressed this week. If that's the case why haven't we done something,anything, as we've been giving away needless penatlies all week? I shall watch with interest to see if he can turn it around.

I walked fine with a torn knee cartilage. Didn't mean I could play professional RL though

Bailey got injured on an army away day - team bonding session

Oh that one!!

Similar to the old knee that goes, when Leeds hit pre-season and a ride in a plane is involved.

What position does Worrall play?
Couldn't understand your coach only using 15 when Buderus went off injured. Surely, as has been said, if he's in the 17 then he should play.
Buderus was missed as soon as he went off. I was expecting him back after half time. The longer he was off the better I liked it.
I said to the man next to me "they can keep Buderus off for as long as they like"
Leeds go forward slowed as soon as DB went onto the bench. It was from that point that Wigan came back to the point where when he returned Leeds were under the cosh. By the time he was back on Leeds were never going to pull it back.
Didn't he go off at 0-10 and return at 18-10?
What on earth was McLennan thinking?
Miss a trick? You bet!

Second Row

If he is not fit at the start of the game then he is probably even worse after half an hour

He does actually have some kind of injury/knock, since he was in at Kirkstall doing rehab on saturday morning. Now, how bad it is and whether its actually keeping him out of the team I dont know.

I think bringing Buderus off was not a bad idea. Let Diskin have a go then throw him back on for the last quarter where he can cause damage against tired players.

As it was Wigan weren't tired because they were walking over us and we were giving them easy ground with penalties. And we couldnt have seen the injury coming.

Our discipline maybe an issue but our big problem is our pack.. No go forward at all.

I disagree. For the first 30 mins on Friday, Leeds were making 60-80 meters per set, forwards were getting the ball on the gain line, and in their hands. For some reason this stopped around 30mins and we went back to very slow and inaccurate distribution from the ruck, and players not getting the ball near the gain line.

Not sure what changed though

with regards to worral i just dont think he is good enough like of size strength etc..

i can understand if we had a winger on the bench and did not play but not a 2nd row. Especially as we were down to only 3 subs. If bm does not think he is good enough he should not be in the squad

I understand the general point you're making and don't disagree with it at all but on this part specifically



Presumably that was on the sets they managed to complete and get to a kick.

Just a pity there weren't more of them. Leeds completed two out of their opening six sets in the first twelve minutes. They reached half time completing only ten from seventeen (59%) and were still leading.

Just how bad were they in the second half?

I was waiting for the "it's all Diskins fault" brigade to turn up. Apparently not having Buderus on the field affects everyone elses performance to such a degree that the whole team falls apart. Players on completely the opposite side of the pitch lose the ability to tackle or catch just because there's someone different at dummy half.