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| Over the last 10 years has Seniors winger always been our top scorer?
I know the lad is knocking on abit (in more ways than one) but I think Hall is getting the service that Donald is missing.
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| Oh dear
Even i'm not stupid enough to come out with that!
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| Quote ="Blocker75"Over the last 10 years has Seniors winger always been our top scorer?
I know the lad is knocking on abit (in more ways than one) but I think Hall is getting the service that Donald is missing.'"
Well McGuire was our top scorer in 2004, and Calders (Chev's) was it in 2005, with McGuire again in 2006
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| What?
I agree with most that he might have gone a year too far and this should be his last year at the top. But we were talking about this last night and thought TVOC could answer.
End of the day he has given good service to Leeds and rugby league and is still a good .
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Well McGuire was our top scorer in 2004, and Calders (Chev's) was it in 2005, with McGuire again in 2006'"
Thanks, couldn't be bothered digging books out. I win a pint
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| Boo.
Edit: [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=409577&start=75Final post[/url on here to muddy the waters?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Boo.
Edit: [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=409577&start=75Final post[/url on here to muddy the waters?'"
Cheers
This has me thinking now, what has been his percentages to his other wingers? do you have that info?
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| Quote ="Blocker75"Cheers
This has me thinking now, what has been his percentages to his other wingers? do you have that info?'"
Do I know how many of Senior's wingers' tries have come from Senior's passes? No, unfortunately.
I looked at the The Hall one this season just to highlight how not all of his tries arrive as a result of Senior's direct service.
The percentage surprised me too.
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| Its too subjective to ever be reliable.
Situation A: Ali goes into tackle and gets a brilliant offload awy to McGuire. Senior supports, and passes wide easily to Hall to score.
Situation B: Senior gets on the outside of his opposite man, fends him, and goes 40 before passing to McGuire inside. He passes to webb when faced with the fullback.
Who shoudl get the creid for the try?
Tries are usually instigated further in field, for example by long balls , which put a player into space, and allow that player to put in a try scoring pass
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Who shoudl get the creid for the try? '"
The front rower who found his knees and elbows in the previous tackle, allowing him to get a quick play the ball and the glamour boys in the backs to run at a retreating defence.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The front rower who found his knees and elbows in the previous tackle, allowing him to get a quick play the ball and the glamour boys in the backs to run at a retreating defence.
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Exactly. Everyone contributes to sucess and failure. Senior has been panned on here for spilling a ball in our red zone. But who's idea was it to fire a ball 30m in those conditions. Same goes for the Hall knock on with a poor ball by McGuire.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Exactly. Everyone contributes to sucess and failure. Senior has been panned on here for spilling a ball in our red zone. But who's idea was it to fire a ball 30m in those conditions. Same goes for the Hall knock on with a poor ball by McGuire.'" Senior ball was out in front and in his hands. He really ought to have taken it, conditions or not.
Halls was over the back of his left shoulder and would've been difficult to take on the hottest, dry-est day in July!
But your overall point about the build up to scores is a very valid one.
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| Quote ="G1"Senior ball was out in front and in his hands. He really ought to have taken it, conditions or not.
Halls was over the back of his left shoulder and would've been difficult to take on the hottest, dry-est day in July!
But your overall point about the build up to scores is a very valid one.'"
Don't get me wrong the ball to senior was catchable, just like Burgess' offload to Ablett was catchable, doesn't mean it wasn't stupid to do though. The weather conditions should emphasis that.
Either was, it was Ablett, Senior, or Hall who got the vast majority of ire, when it was probably the players passing who were as much at fault
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