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"Australian referee Jason Robinson, who took charge of the contest at Elland Road ten days ago, has revealed both Leeds hooker Matt Diskin and Rhinos skipper Kevin Sinfield made the allegation, but declined to pursue the matter through official channels"
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 13,00.html
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"Australian referee Jason Robinson, who took charge of the contest at Elland Road ten days ago, has revealed both Leeds hooker Matt Diskin and Rhinos skipper Kevin Sinfield made the allegation, but declined to pursue the matter through official channels"
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 13,00.html
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| Naming no names, it was clearly (to me at least, from the footage) the Manly second row that made the comment. While still naming no names it wasn't the one that caused Leeds the problems all night and while still mentioning no names you could rearrange these numbers (21) to identify his shirt number.
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| AW are his initials ?
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| I suppose the decision not to persue the matter was so as not to sound like bad loser's. a pity is some ways as this sort of behaviour needs to be stamped out. Bye the bye isn't it up to the ref to on the spot to arbitrate that sort thing anyway?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"AW are his initials ?'"
I wish it had been then you could have re-arranged 11 to get to his shirt number.
Well that's narrowed it down a bit.
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| Don't forget those "G[iy[/ipo" chants for Sean Long Friday week, chaps.
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| Quote ="roo"I suppose the decision not to persue the matter was so as not to sound like bad loser's. a pity is some ways as this sort of behaviour needs to be stamped out. Bye the bye isn't it up to the ref to on the spot to arbitrate that sort thing anyway?'"
Robinson is hiding behind an ignorance of the laws governing international games. The allegation should have gone in his match report, no ifs or buts about it.
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| Quote ="Charmless Nerk"Don't forget those "G[iy[/ipo" chants for Sean Long Friday week, chaps.'"
Where's the line though?
To me there's a big difference between a chant like that directed as banter, and calling someone a "black" whatever.
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| Im not defending racism or condoning it in anyway but Ive recently returned from working in America (Bear with me; this aint a life story) where I was working with a good 20-30 Aussies. They were all genuine, nice people but on occasions they would say remarks which if uttered in England would get you in alot of Trouble. After a few discussions I found that Aussies regularly use words to describe people that if said in England would be deemed racist.... If the Manly player has outright been racist with malicious intent; then we do not need that in our game and he deserves punishment. A reason for Leeds' failure to pursue the comments may have been however that it was not meant in a racist way it was literally just a case of language barriers. Just a thought???
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| Quote ="Ari Gold"Where's the line though?
To me there's a big difference between a chant like that directed as banter, and calling someone a "black" whatever.'"
Got any banter for Leon Pryce?
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| Quote ="Charmless Nerk"Got any banter for Leon Pryce?'"
Has he resurfaced yet?
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| Quote ="SDB" A reason for Leeds' failure to pursue the comments may have been however that it was not meant in a racist way it was literally just a case of language barriers. Just a thought???'"
I thought ignorance is no defence in law?
It should have gone in Robinson's match report for the authorities to deal with not left to individual players to pursue.
I remember Leeds falling foul of not having procedures in place to deal with this kind of thing.
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| Quote ="SDB"literally just a case of language barriers. Just a thought???'"
Please don’t give us your life story
Its probably was more a less nothing however I’m sure that Australians are bough up in schools and taught all about racism like we are. Racism against immigrant islanders in Australia is probably deemed more offensive than racism against a British bloke.
It would be best to just leave it now IMO unless it did cause distress to the player(s) who where offended.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Please don’t give us your life story
Its probably was more a less nothing however I’m sure that Australians are bough up in schools and taught all about racism like we are. Racism against immigrant islanders in Australia is probably deemed more offensive than racism against a British bloke.
It would be best to just leave it now IMO unless it did cause distress to the player(s) who where offended.'"
After hearing first hand some of the words Aussies routinely use to describe people from other parts of the world, I'd suggest it's something that they're not even aware of. One example would be what they still call a person from Pakistan.
Do they mean offence? I don't think so, but that's not the same as it being OK to use the words.
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| there is a regular aussie poster on totalrl condoning it because he said leeds players were grabbing manly players privates in the tackle.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"there is a regular aussie poster on totalrl condoning it because he said leeds players were grabbing manly players privates in the tackle.'"
Oh well....If they we're doing that it makes it alright then?
Or Not....Noone should condone it......
Ref should have included it in his report.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Please don’t give us your life story
Its probably was more a less nothing however I’m sure that Australians are bough up in schools and taught all about racism like we are. Racism against immigrant islanders in Australia is probably deemed more offensive than racism against a British bloke.
It would be best to just leave it now IMO unless it did cause distress to the player(s) who where offended.'"
Go and read some Australian web forums.
Just as an example, go find out what the Aussie slang is for a person of Greek or Lebonese ancestory, try a Sydney based club for starters, a place where they have quite large communities of those people.
Just don't come back here and repeat it though.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Go and read some Australian web forums.
Just as an example, go find out what the Aussie slang is for a person of Greek or Lebonese ancestory, try a Sydney based club for starters, a place where they have quite large communities of those people.
Just don't come back here and repeat it though.'"
Robinsons?
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| Quote ="tvoc"I thought ignorance is no defence in law?
It should have gone in Robinson's match report for the authorities to deal with not left to individual players to pursue.
I remember Leeds falling foul of not having procedures in place to deal with this kind of thing.'"
Typical of his "style" of refing which I expressed concern about before the game.....oh and after as well
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Robinsons?'"
We'll go a dangerous step further and say "Robinsons logo"...
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"We'll go a dangerous step further and say "Robinsons logo"...'"
I'd guessed what it was and you've just confirmed it.
On a slightly related note, I saw the other week they've finally changed the name of that stand, the one someone used to have as an avatar, after losing a race case. The club concerned, I forget who it was, claimed it was the players nickname due to the brand of shoe polish he used
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| You could have just said Carol Thatcher and have done with it.
Quote ="Lord_Percy"The club concerned, I forget who it was, claimed it was the players nickname due to the brand of shoe polish he used
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Makes a change from blaming 'Guy Gibson's Labrador' I suppose.
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| Quote ="tvoc" Makes a change from blaming 'Guy Gibson's Labrador' I suppose.'"
Nice.....
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| Quote ="SDB"Nice.....'"
Can't wait for the Peter Jackson produced re-make:
"Fetch African-American"
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| Quote ="SDB"Im not defending racism or condoning it in anyway but Ive recently returned from working in America (Bear with me; this aint a life story) where I was working with a good 20-30 Aussies. They were all genuine, nice people but on occasions they would say remarks which if uttered in England would get you in alot of Trouble. After a few discussions I found that Aussies regularly use words to describe people that if said in England would be deemed racist.... If the Manly player has outright been racist with malicious intent; then we do not need that in our game and he deserves punishment. A reason for Leeds' failure to pursue the comments may have been however that it was not meant in a racist way it was literally just a case of language barriers. Just a thought???'"
Was one of them called Dean Lance?
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