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| Just a quick question, which may have been well covered elsewhere (links appreciated) but for Watmough's second try, when Williams kicked for Stewart in the build-up (lovely kick if he meant it by the way) was Stewart offside? Not asking in the interests of feling hard done by, just the angles on the footage I have seen were pretty inconclusive, and my curiosity needs satisfying.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Just a quick question, which may have been well covered elsewhere (links appreciated) but for Watmough's second try, when Williams kicked for Stewart in the build-up (lovely kick if he meant it by the way) was Stewart offside? Not asking in the interests of feling hard done by, just the angles on the footage I have seen were pretty inconclusive, and my curiosity needs satisfying.'"
Yes he was, well that's assuming the 'cutting lines' in the grass are parallel to the try line. I checked it a couple of times myself.
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| On first viewing it certainly looked so as he seemed to come from nowhere, second time around I wasn't so sure.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Just a quick question, which may have been well covered elsewhere (links appreciated) but for Watmough's second try, when Williams kicked for Stewart in the build-up (lovely kick if he meant it by the way) was Stewart offside? Not asking in the interests of feling hard done by, just the angles on the footage I have seen were pretty inconclusive, and my curiosity needs satisfying.'"
I didnt think he was offside but it was a tough one to call.
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"Yes he was, well that's assuming the 'cutting lines' in the grass are parallel to the try line. I checked it a couple of times myself.'"
When i looked i thought he was level!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"icon_confused.gif
When i looked i thought he was level!'"
Called it Offside in real time ..on replay looked level
Isnt level offside. I thought the rulling was "behind" the kicker.
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"Which is onside is it not? Is that not what the op asked in his text (not in the thread title).'"
Yes but you said he looked offside!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Yes but you said he looked offside!!'"
I apologise, teach me from misreading and being on here in my lunch break.
When I said yes, I meant yes he was on ONside.
As I said earlier it's clear if you use the grass cutting lines as a guide.
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"I apologise, teach me from misreading and being on here in my lunch break.'"
No probs mate i re-read it after your post
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Yes but you said he looked offside!!'"
Well done on quoting Lenny before he deleted another major gaffe.
Makes a change from him editing his posts just after someone has quoted him I suppose.
Oh, too late
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| I thought the cameras justified the Refs decision to allow play to continue.
Not offside.
Watmough's 1st try was marginally forward though
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| Quote ="Longun"I thought the cameras justified the Refs decision to allow play to continue.
Not offside.
Watmough's 1st try was marginally forward though
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Correct on both scores I would have said.
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| I was screaming at the ref when he didn't check offside, I was then annoyed at Sky for not showing the right angle. When they finally did, I had to eat my humble pie. Clearly onside, just bloody quick
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I was screaming at the ref when he didn't check offside, I was then annoyed at Sky for not showing the right angle. When they finally did, I had to eat my humble pie. Clearly onside, just bloody quick'"
I think I'm right in thinking that he can't go back to a previous tackle to check for offside. Rightly so too.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I think I'm right in thinking that he can't go back to a previous tackle to check for offside. Rightly so too.'"
You are.
I also agree, that while a beautifully run line, the first Watmough try was marginally forward, but one of those margins that you ignore when it is your side who benefits.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I think I'm right in thinking that he can't go back to a previous tackle to check for offside. Rightly so too.'"
Ah thats the one. Thats why I was so frustrated. I [iknew[/i it was offside so was annoyed that we tackled then let them score as he couldn't go to the screen. they were always going to score from that break the covering tackle only delayed the inevitable.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"I didnt think he was offside but it was a tough one to call.'" Same here.
One thing that everyone has failed to mention (surprise surprise) is the referee was in a superb position to make the call on that. There's plenty willing to bag poor refereeing but his position and decision and a decision that would've taken a while with the aid of video was spot on.
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| He looked a long way in front in real time, so it just shows what a great decision it was to allow play to continue.
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| Quote ="tvoc"He looked a long way in front in real time, so it just shows what a great decision it was to allow play to continue.'" Too late with your praise now.
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| Damn you and your broadband connection.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Ah thats the one. Thats why I was so frustrated. I [iknew[/i it was offside so was annoyed that we tackled then let them score as he couldn't go to the screen. they were always going to score from that break the covering tackle only delayed the inevitable.'"
Unfortunately he wasn't offside. Great piece of play that's all.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Just a quick question, which may have been well covered elsewhere (links appreciated) but for Watmough's second try, when Williams kicked for Stewart in the build-up (lovely kick if he meant it by the way) was Stewart offside? Not asking in the interests of feling hard done by, just the angles on the footage I have seen were pretty inconclusive, and my curiosity needs satisfying.'"
He wasn't offside, but the kick just bounced the ball directly into the other players hands.
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| Thank you all for your views on this. No substitute for a highlights package with a conclusive(ish) angle, but you're a lot cheaper than Sky!
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