Last night was in some ways a very typical defeat for Leeds. Over the last couple of seasons I have seen them have a signifiacnt defecit coming into the final quarter, and then turn it on.
I can think of two occassions last season where we have found ourselves well behind, and come back, and only just losing, Wigan and Quins away. Last night was the same.

On the one hand, you have to admire the backs to the wall attituide of the players who never know they are beaten. You also have to look at why they got themselves into that position. Last night we were cut open by an excellent side, and we can have no complaints at the loss, but in some games we have sloppy periods, and leave ourselves too much to do. I would like to see us more clinical, and try to play at a better tempo for more of the 80mins, even though most games can be won by playing below 100%

Sometimes we get away with it like against Hull, other times we don't like Wiagn and Quins.

Too little too late for me. If Leeds would of played like that all the way through the match and we could of beaten them. I just hope that the rest of Burrows career isn’t blighted by concussions during the game. However I bear no excuses.

We could play ifs and buts all day.

The right team won and Leeds gave it they best for the day.

It was definately never say die for me.
After the error early in the second half we didn't touch the ball for nearly 7 minutes when manly put 3 tries on us,we've done it to many teams and highlights the need to at 100% in everything you do against the best teams around.

Manly clearly came out with a plan to blow us out of the game in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half, which they carried out to perfection, then they knew they could play out the rest. They might have been a bit surprised that we came back so well, so it's credit to our players that we played right until the last minute, but Manly knew they were never in danger and had more points in them if needs be. We got in that position because they were far too good for us.

My comments were more general than just last night, although clearly it they are in the contaxt of last night. We were blown away by a better team last night, and staged a good comeback which was admirable.

Last season we played some games a bit dumb, and left ourselves too much to do. Its great to get a win from a position of heavy defecit, but if it happens to much there is a pattern of sloppyness which could get taken advantage of by a better team.

My abiding memory of that Quins game was the disallowed Burrow try caused by the imaginary (Sinfield?) obstruction and being stitched up as usual in London by Klein and Thaler. Has Thaler been sacked yet after Saturday night? If not, why not?

I always felt last season that that defeat was slightly suspect and the one that gave St Helens a sniff.

Manly we're the better team IMO and I wish to god Leeds won but they didn't deserve to on the whole. At the End of the Day it was too little too late from The Rhinos, but kudos needs to go to Manly's game plan and how they executed it. Leeds creditied there defence as the stongest thing in the run up to the game. It had been Sh1t hot in the 3 previous games and it had worked really well and strong as a unit. It was however exploited greatly yesterday.

Leeds use a Man On Man Defence, trusting each player in the squad to be able to stop the man opposite them in the attacking line....How to get through this? Crowd the ruck area Manly style! Manly had dummy runners, inside balls and plenty of short passes in the middle of the field to create confusion within Leeds' man marking.

I get the feeling that Jimmy Lowes and the rest of Warrington will be creaming their pants and trying to exploit this on Sunday. Im hoping Manly were just superior with handling, speed and steps and that Leeds' defence will return to what it was before the WCC.......If not; interesting times for the Rhinos! I wonder how many times the video of this WCC will be shown at other Super League clubs in the week before they play Leeds......Lets hope it wont make any difference and Manly we're btter opponents that caught Leeds on a possible of day!

Warrington don't have the players or the skills to approach anything like the standard Manly played to.

A point amply illustrated that it took Manly getting rid of someone who is now Warrington's best player for them to kick on and win it all.

I'm sure Jimmy Lowes will be doing something in his pants with the consequences of yet more losses...

I didn't mean to Imply that Warrington we're on a par with manly mate....Just that they might learn from their breaking down of Leeds..

Manly had plenty in reserve if required - the sad thing is it wasn't required

Like I and others have probably said elsewhere, we won't be playing a team like Manly again this season.

Last night we were our own worst enemy.......... we got dragged into a scrap, gave the ball up too early in the tackle count too often and were not as disciplined as Manly when it counted.

The more controlled side won and deservedly so..............but it was good to see Leeds keep going and show the grit they did.

tvoc Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject:

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Like I and others have probably said elsewhere, we won't be playing a team like Manly again this season.


THANK FCUK FOR THAT.....

There was plenty of effort from us, but without Burrow and Webb our creativity was pretty limited. Manly just had too much speed, skill and spark.

I think we clawed our way back into the game late on due to Manly tiring - they weren't even fuly match-fit.

We won't play anyone like as good as Manly this year. They were a cut above, better than Melbourne last year.

Agree totally. When you saw how Manly stood when within our 20 it was truely amazing. Every player stood back aiming to run a different line to confuse our defence.

We needed our passes to stick earlier. We tried a move down the left wing with Senior in the first minute of the second half which didn't stick. What happened next was a blitz by Manly scoring 3 tries in 7 mins. We should have started playing then. We had 30 mins to get back in contention.

So all in all too little too late.

i felt the same

I thought the scoreline flattered Leeds. Manly bombed 2 certain tries and I don't think that first try for Leeds should have been given.

Manly got tired and eased off towards the end when they knew it was won which let Leeds in for a couple of consolation tries.

Having said all that, even that below par Manly side would have whupped any of the SL teams last night, Leeds probably did better than any of the other teams would have done.

oh you were doing so well

All through the second half i thought we would be lucky if we scored another try or two. When we started to play in the last quarter and we got two quick tries in i thought we had a slight chance of coming back into win from behind. ALL of the momentum was on our side we were up for it and what had to happen, they had another brawl. This wasted 3 minutes off of the clock which left too little time to claw the lead. It would not have been hard just to stick two hands in the air to call time off. I think with the momentum we was on we could have got in for the two tries that we needed.

Sorry?

Apology accepted.