he's been given help after help. he's a scrote and it's only when he does some jail time

Exactly. Anyone with half a brain cell would have gotten their heads down after being given a golden opportunity at a great club like Wigan to start a fresh and what does he do? He gets lashed up and puts others lives in danger by getting in his car. You just can't help some people.

We all knew that he was gonna screw up again but not before he made his debut FFS! Very interesting to see how Wigan handle this incident so soon after he has started training with them especially as the Wigan chairman said this upon his signing Quote Ian Lenagan warned that Hardaker cannot afford any more controversies. Lenagan said: “This wasn’t a decision that we made lightly. We recognise the serious nature of this incident and our choice in offering this opportunity should not be seen as condoning his actions in any way. “We had extensive conversations with Zak and his family before making our offer. “We encountered a man who, after eight months of reflection, openly admits that he has made a series of significantly poor decisions over the past few years. “Crucially, we also saw someone who recognises that this is the final opportunity to focus on delivering the achievements his talent should generate. “I have had the experiences in business and sport of offering contrite individuals the final opportunity and environment to learn from their mistakes with some notable successes and occasional failures. “Wigan are giving Zak Hardaker that platform to repay the faith his family have shown him.'" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... lay-drugs/ Wigan have previous and didn't cover themselves in any glory with the way that they handled the Bateman/Mossop incident, when perhaps the end result was perceived by many that they simply decided to just keep the only player worth keeping ability wise rather than who did what and to whom I could still envisage Zak playing for Castleford in 2019

We all knew that he was gonna screw up again but not before he made his debut FFS! Very interesting to see how Wigan handle this incident so soon after he has started training with them especially as the Wigan chairman said this upon his signing Quote Ian Lenagan warned that Hardaker cannot afford any more controversies. Lenagan said: “This wasn’t a decision that we made lightly. We recognise the serious nature of this incident and our choice in offering this opportunity should not be seen as condoning his actions in any way. “We had extensive conversations with Zak and his family before making our offer. “We encountered a man who, after eight months of reflection, openly admits that he has made a series of significantly poor decisions over the past few years. “Crucially, we also saw someone who recognises that this is the final opportunity to focus on delivering the achievements his talent should generate. “I have had the experiences in business and sport of offering contrite individuals the final opportunity and environment to learn from their mistakes with some notable successes and occasional failures. “Wigan are giving Zak Hardaker that platform to repay the faith his family have shown him.'" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... lay-drugs/ Wigan have previous and didn't cover themselves in any glory with the way that they handled the Bateman/Mossop incident, when perhaps the end result was perceived by many that they simply decided to just keep the only player worth keeping ability wise rather than who did what and to whom I could still envisage Zak playing for Castleford in 2019

No one cares.

Nothing to see here.

You can't educate rubber.

I’m waiting for the “depression” get out of jail card to be played which really undermines people who really suffer from depression but don’t act like idiots.

wont be losing to your set of e tho will we?

You've already got that T-shirt has "Syrup" Gale got out of Mcguires back pocket yet?

whats it like living in the past??

Christ, going to cas is going back in time donkeys bloody years!

They still have blue passports in Castleford.

The guy is f46king clown shoes

What's it like living in 1974?

This is almost word for word what I was thinking about this whole sorry mess last night. Every time he does this there's a swarm of people talking about his 'demons' and how he 'needs help' but I think having that as a get out of jail free card isn't helping him sort out his problems. There are plenty of people with 'demons' that don't act like idiots. I think there gets a point where people need to realise that maybe certain people are just, you know, idiots. Irrespective of anything he's gone through he's perfectly capable of making decisions. Lad's obviously a stupid kid who never grew up. Sooner people stop putting his idiotic behaviour down to 'troubles' and 'demons' the sooner he might start taking some responsibility and growing up.

great post and spot on. there will always be people making excuses for him though

The irony!

Taxi for Zak !

Wigan Charirman in May 2018 "My team at Wigan will manage, mentor and test him through this period of rehabilitation and development and, hopefully, guide him back to being one of the best players in Super League.”

Rickets too

So that’s why the ladies from Castleford have bow legs...

If only he had, they'd be no need to discuss him now.

Were "his team" the Tomkins brothers and Bateman?

What a div https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45822780

What a div https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45822780

It'll be intesresting to see how Wigan react. I suspect they'll do nothing much this season as it'd be too late to look to make any changes. It really does make a nonsense of the suggestion that somehow they will 'look after' Hardaker in some way better than anyone else can. People like him just generally never learn, and he most likely regards any discussions and undertakings about his behaviour as a huge source of amusement when he's drunk. Sadly sports of all kinds indulge 'stars' that way, so he'll most likely end up never having really learned his lesson.

Everything about this is just such a shame.

A talented guy who could have been anything he wanted in RL including rich, relative to Joe bloggs but not like footballer standard. Idolised. Name in the history books. Things fans would give anything for.

And being a sports star I fully expect he will have had all sorts of help made available to him to 'help him cope' with whatever it is people think he needs help to cope with whereas Joe bloggs who is struggling with mental health has to wade through the quagmire of public service help and won't have access to the expensive end of what can be available.

Of course none of that matters when you are ed up driving a car with no insurance or mot having being up for assault and God knows what else before.

I have so much sympathy for those that need help but none for those that continuously throw it back at people and don't take responsibility.

Rant over.

He’s never taken responsibility for anything and he never will.

James Child incident - not my fault that word means something else.
Student incident - not my fault, few beers and the lad started on him.
Cas incident- I was drunk - didn’t know what I was doing
Drink driving - I was “protecting” my golf clubs.

Until he actually admits to himself he has a problem, nothing will change. Sure he’ll say he learned lessons, made mistakes, grown up etc in public, but he doesn’t actually mean it. There’s always been someone to wipe up his mess for him, smarten him up and have someone with a nice fat contract outside the door saying “we can change him” when in reality the only person on this earth who CAN make that call won’t, mainly because he doesn’t have to OR want to.

I really fear for this lad, I honestly do.