I think it's fair to say if you give Walters 10 mins extra he will make more carries than the likes of Lisone. He is making the same amount of carries as the other props or more and playing fewer minutes and coming off the bench. He deserves his place in the 17. As for the work rate in the pack, I think they all need to up the number of carries they are doing. Controlling the ball better will go along way to fixing that up.

If we’re coming out of our own end a lot because of the tactics then a lot of carries are going to go the way of the outside backs.

But agreed they could all up their work rate. Mik was an absolute beast last year and carried the pack, he’s clearly working back to form and fitness. Sangare has been impactful in limited minutes. The rest of them have ranged from inconsistent to poor for me.

Not sure i get this Sangare has been impactful at all

Aggressive and impactful are not the same.

All rephrase. Sangare has been what I expected. He’s raw and makes the odd error/defensive lapse, but he’s big, can skittle a defender and offload. He’s exactly the type of prop who has been causing us problems for years in the mould of Paasi or Kasiano, granted he’s not the finished article.

Also realise my previous post may have been unfair to Tom Holroyd, who has been pretty good.

Not sure ‘pretty good’ cuts it anymore…..

So you don’t think Holroyds had a good season so far?

Holroyd got an England call up for his form. His best is still yet to come he could be a bigger Barrie McDermott.

No I think he’s been very good actually. But they all need to be paying, ‘very wellI’ most of the time now. Long gone are the days where we could just turn it on at will and blitz teams…..

Holroyd is our best prop he's got aggression and a massive engine and he'll get better and better quality.

Holroyd and Walters are our two best props,Mik is way off at the minute. Lisone is a ten minute man and as for Sangare,well to be honest Donaldson is better value

Sangare has offered more than Donaldson.

Mik will come good,will just take time to regain march fitness and the fact we now have props means he isn't doing it all himself.

Mik has been poor since his return - I appreciate that is not allowed on here - but he has.

Walters is a done deal over on Redvee a long with Clark from Wire.

Disappointing if true. We don't know what those who see him everyday see, but I've liked the look of him. Certainly has potential, perhaps hasn't shown enough but to counter he has had limited opportunities.

Think I read somewhere a while back that Smith was keen to keep him, if that’s the case why let his contract run down thus given him the chance to up his value.

He hasn’t always shown the best judgement but you can see how Saints might see him as the next Walmsley candidate and he’s from there originally ish.

Will be a shame if true, we shouldn't be losing young English players when there is no need.
I get it's not always in the clubs control but I'd take him over Tet,Bentley or/and Donaldson lol

Yeh a shame if true.
But you can understand why he would go to Saints.
I do wonder if he really has the fire and aggression needed to be a top front rower.
But he certainly has potential and time on his side.

he's the one thats ran down his contract, not Rohan Smith

When Smith came out and said he wanted to keep him and other young prospects I thought that's him saving face with fans,if Walters has gone it's not a good position to put yourself in.

Who can blame him. Closer to home and real chance of silverware…..

Really disappointed if this is true. Leeds shouldn't be losing 22year olds with loads of potential especially if the coach wanted to keep him.
Could well have played his last game for Leeds.

So you are saying it was offered a new deal a lot earlier and not in the latter stages of this one, if it was the previous then if he as an agent it will be that person told him to go shopping.

why wouldn't he leave for saints?
6 years of rebuilding and leeds are still a shambles of club, shuffling along year after year of mediocrity.
Good luck to him