And when you have a big strong hungry winger like Hall bringing it back it's entirely sensible to get him taking that workload.

I think we sometime look at layer stats in isolation rather than as a contribution to the team effort.

Didn't really know wear to put this question and didn't want to start a new thread.

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Robbie Ward and Singleton both start at 9 & 10 respectively. Clarkson at loose with Delaney on the bench.

Bailey the one to miss out again (with BJB unsurprisingly) hmmmmm!

Boring game. Thought Singleton and Hardaker were outstanding though. Ward looks good, and how boringly predictable that they brought him off on 25 mins. Other than Cas game, still yet to see anything to suggest Sutcliffe will be the future stand off, poor game from him. Achurch hard working also, and a lot of effort from McGuire.

Zero passion from our fishy friends from umbersard. Think they'll struggle to make the 8 on that performance.

Actually was 30 minutes for Ward's opening stint, with at around 15-20 mins towards the end. After how we saw Hood and McShane used I'd say a 45-50 minute debut is anything but boringly predictable. Tried nothing fancy from dummy half (I mean that in a good way) and thought he went well in defence to say he's not the biggest and nice for him to get a try.....although he probably owes Kirk Yeaman a thank you card for that one.

Thought Achurch had a good game after a couple of butter fingers early on but I wouldn't have had him as MOM like he got at the ground. Thought both Leuluai (again impressive) and Singleton were better for me. Kirke put in a good shift it should noted. (Yes I know, "why can't he do that every week zzzzzzz"icon_wink.gif

McGuire, like Achurch, had a few early blips but his effort to create something was massive. In fact he seemed to border on trying too hard at times. Thought it was one of his best kicking games for a while tonight though.

Agree about Sutcliffe and thought it for a while. He looks like he can do something exciting at times, but an all out game managing, guiding his team around halfback? Not close at all ATM.

Overall the game was a grind, the weather made that a formality. We did try working it out wide but you saw the three quarters were very cautious about going near the sidelines, they probably would've had a field day on a dry track.

James Child was poor again. I was very close to the Moon try, I thought for sure that was a knock on/forward pass from Hall.

I thought we struggled with the weather early on and our passing was poor. In the second half we looked much more confident with the ball and never looked like losing.
Thought Hardaker was good.
The centres and wingers didn't get much chance (understandably in that weather) but Hall showed his strength and work rate with some good runs infield. Was Watkins injured by the end?
Thought Sinfield was solid throughout.
McGuire was poor to start with but wasn't helped by receiving some poor passes and got better in the 2nd half.
Leuluai is awesome.
Singleton was impressive for a young lad
Ablett looked very good until his injury.
Achurch looked good again. Would be my starting 2nd rower every week at the moment.
Robbie Ward was superb I thought. For a young lad making his debut in an important position I thought he did great. Got caught out a couple of times at marker but on the whole was very good. Let's not put too much hype or pressure on the lad though and be happy with a steady, progressive development.

For Hull, I thought the only one who looked like he might ever break through was Ellis. Too good for the rest of the Hull team in my opinion.

Not sure if Watkins was injured but Briscoe had some sort of hand injury. Ran over to the sidelines quickly to get it sorted and came back on, maybe a dislocated finger?

Achurch limped off but thought I could see him jogging on the side later on so hopefully ok.

Don't know what the problem with Ablett was, hopefully just precaution why we didn't see him again.

Ablett looked to be ready to come back on for the last few minutes but i don't think he got on.

Accurate reports above. I thought Singleton looked more comfortable starting rather than coming off the bench.

Strong games from Kylie ,Singleton and Achurch I also thought Robbie Ward had a good debut & showed he can handle this level.
Overall too many errors ,a poor ref and absolute turd opposition it was a win we move on.

Singletons best games this season have all been when starting games. He probably won't start next week with peacock back against wire, but I'd like to see one of Kylie or JP start off the bench a few times this year to give Singo more mins, and to keep both Kylie and JP fresh going into the business end of the season.

Robbie ward I thought looked good for a debut, looks like he can run and tackle. I kno it's only one game but already looks better than hood did when he came into the first team. Not sure if he'll retain his place for next week, but I hope he does

Some Ward's distribution was an issue in the first half, which aside from fatigue was probably the reason he was substituted. However, a good knock on debut for a young player.

What do people expect from Sutcliffe, great stand offs are not made over night, they need to learn their trade. Expecting him to guide a team around is laughable. Schofield, Lockyer, Daley, Holmes, Kenny and even Lewis were all well into their twenties before they could manage a game.

Not expecting him to come on and be Darren Lockyer out there, but he's getting decent minutes out there and with Sinfield having to play 9 I would've hoped to see GLIMPSES of taking charge. Even when I watched the friendly vs Hunslet at the start of the year made up largely of academy lads he didn't take any control in that regards and most was left up to Ben White.

With regards to Sutcliffe it's clear that whenever he does get minutes in the halves and not BR that Sinfield and McGuire are still running the show and calling the plays.

I agree with most of the earlier comments.
Watkins did look tired/injured towards the end. It showed particularly when he made a break from one of their (multitudinous) errors & rather than sprint for the line he tried to put Briscoe (I think) through.
I wondered if he was still suffering side effects from last week's illness since he ended up on his haunches.
Hull have absolutely no creativity, they were simply dreadful.
Given the deluge before the game I thought the pitch was in remarkable condition a testament to the new drainage system.

The shocking thing is, that was our best performance for a few weeks!


If bradford win their appeal, we could go down. Forget about the 8, we are absolute cack.

His distribution was fantastic. Not sure what you were watching. You might have got mixed up with McGuire going into dummy half.

As for Sutcliffe, sorry but compare to McGuire and Sinfield when first in side and younger, Holroyd, even Murrell. All looked better in that role than what has been shown so far from him for that role. His best performances have come in the pack, but for at Cas. Maybe a valid point about not giving him chance to manage play, maybe the reason for him not having chance to show yet, so maybe more to come. I just don't see why these predictions of long term stand off yet.

On another note, anyone know the lad who was 18th man last night? Couldn't tell the face at all. He was training at start also. Guessing he is close to a call up.

Josh Walters.

I know someone asked on here a few days ago about why was Ward shirt 29 and who had the 28 shirt. Someone asked on twitter last night who was number 28 and the club replied Walters so he must be close to a game.

Yep its Walters one of the lads we signed last year from Carnegie RU predominantly a BR but has played a fair bit at Centre recently.

Just seen the Bulls team for their game against Catalans. Baldwinson is on the bench but no place for Tonks.

His distribution was quick but his passes were slightly inaccurate and it makes a difference.

I am comparing him to McGuire and Sinfield, according to feck wits posting on here at the time McGuire was a good support player and would never make a classic strand off.

Horrors maybe but, he never fulfilled his potential. Murrell? Whatever you're smoking, post the details.

Murrell looked to have a beer belly in the academy at Leeds

He wasn't exactly gifted in the first place! Well as an RL player at any rate!