come on fella!! we arnt saints fans ala 07/08 we know you need to be at your best when it matters the most or you lose!! End of!! do I think we can win it?? yes as most Leeds fans do!! But the win is never a given!! When I was in oz for the world cup the media had the nerve to say after the semi they should just give the trophy to oz there and then!! You could smell the shock coming from the kiwis but the Aussies where so big headed they were blind to it!! Just like saints in 07/08!

In all honesty I felt the game last week could just have easily have gone your way. So whilst I am confident I wold hesitate to be arrogant and assume we just have to turn up.

I think at our best we're the best team in the comp by some margin.

But to win the GF we will need to be near are best and not get refereed out of the game.

Any posters intimating such thoughts are generally just trolling the Saints fan visiting the board.

But I'm sure you knew that already.

In a word - yuh.

We can win it. We should win it. But it still has to be earned. If we don't go out and earn it, we won't win it. Huddersfield's defeat in the CC just shows that a better side will lose if they don't do their jobs properly.

We’re a long way from even getting to OT yet.

We can beat any team on the day, but the same can be said about any of the top six teams at the moment.

We’ve not even won the hub cap yet!!

Can we win the GF? – Yes

Will we win the GF? – we can only hope.

I think we've earned the right to be confident but saying that those of us who've supported Leeds pre-2004 know full well how you can promise so much and deliver f#ck all!!
I've said before that other than leeds the only team i'd never write off is saints and as i posted friday night showed imo that these are still the best 2 teams in the comp!
There are threats from HKR,Giants and possibly wigan but if the top 2 maintain their play-off form it's between them 3 times in a row and given the last 2 yrs i'd back us again.

What about Bradford???

or are you suggesting that Mick Gledhill is talking complete and utter b0llox????

It only takes a slightly off performance from Leeds for this lot to be on the players back again. Mark my words.

Last season there were very few people in RL who didn't write Leeds off in the GF. The arrogance from Saints was astounding.

I got very good odds on Leeds and won £125.00 on the Leeds win. That's because I'm not a knee jerker who balances the whole rest of the season on the last game or a couple of injuries. Writing Leeds off because Lee Smith is at full back instead of Brent Webb is exceedingly disrespectful and some supporters they are. He embarrassed those people did Smithy.

But, to answer your question, nothing is cut and dried and Leeds could very possibly lose the GF, if we get there. That will be very embarrassing for a few people on here and will also trigger vitriol against the Leeds team again.

Could we lose on Friday, lets think Salford nothing to play for ,but nothing to lose throw the ball about with abandon and it comes off? they have good players Ratchford looking to make name for himself, Leeds uptight feeling they have to win, overconfident , YES we can lose on Friday the same goes for any game, as someone said if you supported Leeds before 2004 (our miracle year) you know only to well how it can go rapidly down the toilet.

Why would leeds fans not be confident? They just beat the second placed team, finishing top (probably), look OK on the injury front and will have suspended players back for play-offs.

I didn't hear anyone say they couldn't be beat.

Leeds have won grand finals against the 'favourites' so i'd imagine they'll be less inclined to be complacement.

I think you are exaggerating a bit here, I've not read anything like that, quite the opposite in fact.

I was more confident of winning the GF last year than I am this year.

I think the fact everybody had written us off last year motivated the players greatly, you could see it in the line speed, to keep those energy levels up as we did must have have been partly fuelled by anger and having been written off by almost everybody in the game.

My doubts this year are mainly due to the overall size and power of the Saints team against ours, i just think we are a little to light in the forward and down one of our centre / wing partnerships.

I think we are probably slightly more skillfull, faster etc but more powerful? i don't. If we get to the GF again and play Saints, our kicking game will have to be spot on once again (as it was in 04, 07 & 0icon_cool.gif.

I'm not saying we can't get to the GF and win it, I'm just saying that Saints will still have a major say in the outcome.

If it's raining in the Grand Final Leeds have a chance for the treble

Out team has the talent and ability to win the GF.....but so have any of the others in the mix. Even Bradford should they get past Hull this weekend. After the season they've had, it's amazing how the sniff of something can transform an entire team.

No disrespect to the other 6, but I pretty sure that both Saints and Leeds would be viewed as favourites, but nothing is a given in RL, and that's what makes our game so good.

So, the short answer is yes, I'm confident that we have an outstanding chance of lifting the Trophy, but would only be arrogant about it on the Saints board, where your Mods are getting very twitchy!

Aye, those Pampers Graham wears will absorb so much rain he'll barely be able to drag them around the pitch...

Was it raining in 2007?

Yes it was, Leeds points..

A key factor about Friday is how pxxd off the players are for losing at home to Salford (worst performance of the season, says JP) and the desire for revenge should overcome any feelings of complacency.

You don't half talk some poop. Where does it say anywhere on this forum that we all think that the SL GF is already won by us?

This year is harder to call than the last 3 I think. I don't believe there is one genuine "third" strong team that can match Saints and Leeds consistancy, but if you look at the games lost over the season (including the CC semis) it is obvious that there are some good teams out there who can upset anyone. I would even count Bradford in that (should they make the

. Bradford have beaten us and Saints and are (yes Mick Gledhill) looking like they are getting a bit of form on.

The playoffs are as Tony Smith mentioned on Friday, about which teams handle the pressure best. In that department we do have an advantage, but this year I think there is a lot more confidence from the likes of HKR, Hudds, Wigan, etc. that they can challenge anyone.
I see it as tougher to win this year, and if we don't then it may say more about how the cap is finally levelling up teams than that Leeds have underperformed.

Nobody has won 3 titles in a row, it would be an awesome achievement, and so the flip side is that not to win this year could hardly be called a disaster.

Leeds are streets ahead of anyone else in the competition and anyone who things otherwise is deluded.

Leeds would also win the NRL if they had the opportunity and my opinion is that the WCC should be changed and Leeds play the 2 SOO sides as warm ups before taking on Australia in the real WCC Final.

Leeds would, I expect, win that by a good 18-24 points.

MOM - Mike Ratu.
Injured - Ashley Gibson.
Lost on TKO - Jamie Peacock.
Attendance - 112k (boosted by telling the HKR fans they were the stand in side in case the Leeds bus broke down).
Smallest Man In Ground - Danny.
Most Agressive Little Man Syndrome - Danny.
Most Chavs ask outside - Danny.
Arrested for having pants round ankles - Danny.
Arrested for trying to get in showers without being a player - rhinoms.

Was it raining last Friday?

(excluding Graham's tears it appeared fairly dry)

Rommel aint very clever is he.

Only Graham wanted to win last week because the Hub Cap is cursed