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| Reports in Oz this morning we're in for Brad Arthur! Exciting development, and he's immediately available.
I'm convinced if we move quickly, this season could be somehow saved. I'm not saying trophies, but maybe playoffs. With RS, it's a total right-off IMO.
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| Those reports seem highly doubtfully sourced. You'd be as good getting your news from Mick Gledhill.
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| Quote ="MjM"Those reports seem highly doubtfully sourced. You'd be as good getting your news from Mick Gledhill.'"
Seem to be taken from a league express article. Which is a very poor source.
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| Quote ="christopher"If those fans can’t control themselves for one game dedicated to Rob then I despair.'"
I fear you may be doing just that.. Rohan has very little stock left but you'd like to think for the greater cause of Rob fans would unite, but if Leigh score early against us I can see the atmosphere turning sour very quickly.
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| This isn't our problem players but we seem to have a problem with concussion with our players. Got an injury report from the Hull game and apparently we could be without Harry Newman, Ash Handley, Tom Holroyd & Sam Lisone for this week's game against Leigh, we'll see when tomorrow's 21 man squad is named.
Apparently all 4 players showed concussion symptoms after the game and will be stood down this week, it feels like Leeds as a club have a real strict procedure when it comes to concussion/ HIA this is probably due to the Stevie Ward saga and end of the day the players health comes first and the club will be extra precautious now. I'd imagine Tom Holroyd will probably miss majority of this season now due to his concussion reports this year wouldn't be surprised if he gets same treatment as Morgan Gannon and stood down til next season.
We do seem to have a stricter policy with head injuries compared to other clubs.
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All out with HIA protocol all at the same time seems extreme but players welfare comes first.
To add insult to the injuries Leon Ruan is also injured got a hip injury playing in reserves at the weekend.
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| Quote ="FlyingScottyDonald"I fear you may be doing just that.. Rohan has very little stock left but you'd like to think for the greater cause of Rob fans would unite, but if Leigh score early against us I can see the atmosphere turning sour very quickly.'"
If so. then the whole lets respect Rob is a very hollow statement IMO.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"This isn't our problem players but we seem to have a problem with concussion with our players. Got an injury report from the Hull game and apparently we could be without Harry Newman, Ash Handley, Tom Holroyd & Sam Lisone for this week's game against Leigh, we'll see when tomorrow's 21 man squad is named.
Apparently all 4 players showed concussion symptoms after the game and will be stood down this week, it feels like Leeds as a club have a real strict procedure when it comes to concussion/ HIA this is probably due to the Stevie Ward saga and end of the day the players health comes first and the club will be extra precautious now. I'd imagine Tom Holroyd will probably miss majority of this season now due to his concussion reports this year wouldn't be surprised if he gets same treatment as Morgan Gannon and stood down til next season.
We do seem to have a stricter policy with head injuries compared to other clubs.
Newman
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Ackers
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Lisone
Gannon
All out with HIA protocol all at the same time seems extreme but players welfare comes first.
To add insult to the injuries Leon Ruan is also injured got a hip injury playing in reserves at the weekend.'"
Im amazed Harry was allowed to come back on TBH he was taking a few pot shots throughout that game.
We are clearly being very cautious with Concussions, and as much as its frustrating to not have the players available their health has to come first and we need to make sure the whole squad is stronger to cope with these players being out.
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| If we do play poorly I'd hope that the crowd redirect their energies with sustained chants of robs name
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| I'd rather be cautious and lose a player for a few week than lose a player permanently as we did with Ward.
I hope and it does look like we learned from that debacle at least.
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| Do other clubs have the same issues on the same scale that we do? Perhaps they do. But if not, and I'm fully supportive of player safety, but if we're applying a stricter protocol, does that mean the other 11 clubs are putting their players in danger. I'd assume not, and that the protocols being applied by others are mitigating the risk to acceptable levels ( it will never be zero). In that case, we are placing ourselves at a disadvantage for no gain elsewhere, are we not?
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| Most Leeds coaches have had criticism on here at some point, even the successful ones. But chants calling for their sacking is pretty rare, especially at home. I remember Peter Fox getting plenty in the 80s but can't remember any since.
As much as I would like Smith to go, it isn't nice to see fans turning on the coach. Friday is certainly not the time or place.
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| A section of Leeds fans pretty much hounded Tony Smith out of the club. The high level of aggressive stupidity goes back a long way.
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| Tony Smith left Leeds to take the GB Coaches job.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Tony Smith left Leeds to take the GB Coaches job.'"
His Leeds contract was at an end and wasn't being renewed.
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| smith, Tony, was an oddball.
2004 pure genius.
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2006 a lightweight mobile pack which was a failure.
early 2007 very patchy, if not poor, form.then it clicked and we won the GF.
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| Agree with that.
In 2006 and early 2007 it felt like success was slipping away too quickly after the great stride made in 2004, especially when we had a dominant side for most of 2005 that inexplicably lost the Challenge Cup and GF.
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| andrew dunneman told me about the training. he said come the GF they had nothing left to give. he didn't understand why as 2004 he rotated and rested all season until the last 2 games, so everyone was fresh.
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| Quote ="christopher"If those fans can’t control themselves for one game dedicated to Rob then I despair.'"
I don't disagree.
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| Quote ="Theeaststander1"Rohan smith has left Leeds rhinos, this will be announced later today
An offer has been tabled for Steve McNamara'"
This looks a bit previous Rodney.
Are you McNamara’s agent in disguise?
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| Refreshing to hear an unfettered view in the YP.
I'm glad he noticed GH's 'competitive' comment, because it explains a lot about where the lack of desperation to win things comes from. It really did sound like the lame excuse it is. In reality we're close to the bottom of a group of teams that compete amongst themselves. Its not true that Wigan and Sts are part of that general competitive pack - just like the Leeds of the Golden Generation those two sides will not be beaten when it counts by any of those second tier teams.
As for Rohan's nonsense about 'promise' after Hull, I got the feeling he just threw that in as he had nothing else to say. The problem isn't just Rohan in those instances, its the media not asking tough questions. At some stage someone has to call out appalling performances for what they are.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"Refreshing to hear an unfettered view in the YP.
I'm glad he noticed GH's 'competitive' comment, because it explains a lot about where the lack of desperation to win things comes from. It really did sound like the lame excuse it is. In reality we're close to the bottom of a group of teams that compete amongst themselves. Its not true that Wigan and Sts are part of that general competitive pack - just like the Leeds of the Golden Generation those two sides will not be beaten when it counts by any of those second tier teams.
As for Rohan's nonsense about 'promise' after Hull, I got the feeling he just threw that in as he had nothing else to say. The problem isn't just Rohan in those instances, its the media not asking tough questions. At some stage someone has to call out appalling performances for what they are.'"
Yes fully agree.And even Peter smith has been quite stinging in his comments column this week
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| I am a big Holroyd fan but he has been out of condition or form for a good while now, he can't seem to string a run together. Really disappointing season so far - not just the injuries but when he has played he has been a culprit of our error-a-thon.
There is still a very good player in there but for various reasons we're not seeing it.
Sangare - on the right money could be worth retaining as a squad prop. He is massive which has use. He gets terrible service sometimes (Cam Smith gives him the odd hospital pass). Also not really mobile enough to run his weight and be as damaging as we'd all like.
Newman is very athletic n but he isn't playing well, especially since his back injury and I wonder if he's carrying knocks.
I think generally the squad is in a bit of a funk, losing games can do that and the confidence has been affected. I think the solution is to sign a handful of higher quality players and probably change the coaching set up, but to do that we'd have to move a couple of players on early. Blease is going to have to be creative to get Leeds into a truly challenging position for 2025, but I don't believe the current squad is a title winning squad and we are all sick to death of Leeds being the laughing stock of SL after many years of this.
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| I think with Newman with a better coach and attacking structure, he can be much better. I think if you put Newman in a Wigan, Saints or Salford side, you would see a far better player.
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| You may be right re. Newman but the coach isn't making him drop the ball or try to beat the entire opposition on his own every time he gets the ball. Newman needs to learn how to play with his team mates better - maybe that's a coaching issue too but I think he's always been a bit of a glory boy. He just needs reining in a bit at times - he would look better running into space with some structure agreed.
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